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Post subject: telecaster nashville deluxe: pickups rattle
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:09 am
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when I play my telecaster nashville deluxe, the pickups vibrate and buzz. If i shake the guitar up & down, I hear and feel a rattle inside...like something has broken loose under the pick guard.

Today I couldn't stand it anymore & took the guitar apart to better understand the problem. Seems to be caused by the rubber dampers around the screws used for adjusting the neck & middle pickup height. The dampers allow the pickups to move & vibrate quite bit...and are not cutting it at all!

Has anyone out there had the same problem and come up with a good fix?


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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:39 am
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You could buy some tubing at a hardware store and cut it longer than what you have now and change out your current tubing.

You could try springs instead of tubing, also available at your local hardware store. I've found springs the perfect diameter for pickup screws but about two inches in length. Cut them to size with tin snips, string cutters, or even scissors.

By hardware store, I'm talking about a place like Ace Hardware or True Value where they have bins of nuts & bolts and other parts that you can buy small quantities of, not Home Depot or Lowe's where you'll have to buy 50 feet of tubing or a 25-pound box of springs.


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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:01 am
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Very good George; springs, an excellent suggestion! The rubber [of any kind]will begin to break down and start disintegrating quickly…Not true with springs – they will provide the adjustable pickup mounts with better footing & the right amount of rigidity following an adjustment. Thank you.

While the Tele is apart, I am very handy with a soldering iron – have good equipment in my shop and was trained to hand solder electronics in the USN in the mid 70’s..

I love my Tele and would not harm it…but is not a scared cow and I like to experiment. Any mods to suggest?


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If you're a Navy-trained soldering guy, you're all set to become a guitar wiring wizard.

Mods?

Well, you can do some cool things with 3 pickups. The Nashville Deluxe comes from the factory with wiring like a Strat, if I'm not mistaken, so you get this:

1. Neck only
2. Neck and middle
3. Middle only
4. Middle and bridge
5. Bridge only

This is cool but you lose the traditional Tele combination of neck and bridge pickups with this setup. Some feel that position 3 - middle pickup only - isn't as useful as the neck & bridge combo so they rewire their 3-pickup Teles to give them this combination and lose the middle pickup only option.

I looked around for a wiring diagram but the page at my usual source, www.tdpri.com is down. I'm talking about the page under Resources there. If you search that forum, you'll find diagrams posted in threads for what I'm about to suggest, and I know it has been discussed in this forum too. You'll also find it at www.fenderforum.com in the Guitar Mods section. I think you need a 5-way "Super Switch" from www.stewmac.com and other places to get this:

1. Neck only
2. Neck and middle
3. Neck and bridge
4. Middle and bridge
5. Bridge only

There's another way of doing this and that's to install a "neck on" or "bridge on" switch. This will allow you to keep your current setup but add either the neck or the bridge pickup - whichever you choose - to any position, so you don't lose the middle only option and you gain the ability to have all three pickups on at the same time.

Some install a mini toggle switch between the volume and tone pots to achieve this, and others replace either the volume or tone pot with a push-pull pot to do the same thing.

I haven't done this but I know I'd prefer the push-pull method, because I do volume swells by wrapping my pinky around the volume knob and a mini toggle switch in the middle would be in my way.

Again, sorry for the lack of wiring diagrams here but they are all over the web.

An idea I've been thinking of lately for my Nashville is installing a Seymour Duncan "P-Rails" pickup in the neck position. That would involve a new pickguard, obviously, but I'm intruiged by the idea of one pickup being a blade single coil, a P-90, and a humbucker all in one.

Another mod idea for your guitar is to swap the 6-saddle bridge for a 3-saddle one. Lots of folks think the 6-saddles move around too easily during hard strumming/picking and don't give the sustain and signature Telecaster twang as well as the traditional 3-saddle bridge.

Have fun! The Nashville is great platform for mods due to the huge "swimming pool" rout under the pickguard that will let you intall just about any pickups you want.

Here's my Honey Blonde Nashville in its current state. It's not really a Nashville Tele right now, for a lot of reasons: 3-saddle bridge with compensated saddles, dome-top knobs, white Strat switch tip (matches white pickguard, not pictured), and only two Tele pickups - that red wire is for a 4-way switch to get both pickups in series for a fatter sound in position 4. I mounted the neck pickup to the body so I could use a more vintage-looking 5-hole single-ply pickguard that doesn't have holes for hanging the pickup from the pickguard. That's just an appearance thing, but I prefer the cleaner look. I also have different neck on this guitar as you can tell by the truss rod adjustment being at the heel instead of at the headstock.

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