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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:02 am
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G`day fella`s

just a quickie...would swapping out the pup`s in a squire tele make a huge difference to the sound?


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Most likely, yes.

For the kind of money you're going to drop on a Squier Tele and a new set of pickups, it might be more worthwhile just to invest in a Standard Telecaster. A good used one can be had for around $400-$450, and they're better guitars than the Squiers.


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I don't know why everyone bashes Squire's so much. I was in the music store Sat. and picked up a natural ash tele and it really disappointed me. every fret had a sharp edges. The new squire's I've played have really been good and more than a 100 bucks cheaper and that enough to pick up some really nice pickups. If a Guitar feels good and sound's the way you want. Buy it. Forget about the name on the headstock. Don't let your ego keep you from buying a nice guitar.


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idahored wrote:
I don't know why everyone bashes Squire's so much. I was in the music store Sat. and picked up a natural ash tele and it really disappointed me. every fret had a sharp edges. The new squire's I've played have really been good and more than a 100 bucks cheaper and that enough to pick up some really nice pickups. If a Guitar feels good and sound's the way you want. Buy it. Forget about the name on the headstock. Don't let your ego keep you from buying a nice guitar.


Yep, absolutely right! A friend has a Squire tele and it's terrific. I've played it and while sure, there are this and that differences between his and my AmStd, he still got a great deal and for a heck of a lot less money. That and his Frontman 15R and he's happy as a clam.

I have a Squire Tele Standard that I use for slide ... construction and fretwork is fine. It has somewhat of a warmer tone than a classic Tele (which is what I want for "my" sound) but in that respect, it's like my Highway 1 Tele, which is also warmer.

For that matter, I have an 83 (MIJ) Squire P-Bass and it's one of my main working basses.

This is the Fender Tele forum and so yes, total honesty ... there are differences between each grade of Tele I have. (The MIJ P-bass is a different story.) The AmStd has pure, clean classic sound and flawless construction. But there's nothing wrong with the Squires for every day use.


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idahored wrote:
I don't know why everyone bashes Squire's so much. I was in the music store Sat. and picked up a natural ash tele and it really disappointed me. every fret had a sharp edges. The new squire's I've played have really been good and more than a 100 bucks cheaper and that enough to pick up some really nice pickups. If a Guitar feels good and sound's the way you want. Buy it. Forget about the name on the headstock. Don't let your ego keep you from buying a nice guitar.


Yep, absolutely right! A friend has a Squire tele and it's terrific. I've played it and while sure, there are this and that differences between his and my AmStd, he still got a great deal and for a heck of a lot less money. That and his Frontman 15R and he's happy as a clam.

I have a Squire Tele Standard that I use for slide ... construction and fretwork is fine. It has somewhat of a warmer tone than a classic Tele (which is what I want for "my" sound) but in that respect, it's like my Highway 1 Tele, which is also warmer.

For that matter, I have an 83 (MIJ) Squire P-Bass and it's one of my main working basses.

This is the Fender Tele forum and so yes, total honesty ... there are differences between each grade of Tele I have. (The MIJ P-bass is a different story.) The AmStd has pure, clean classic sound and flawless construction. But there's nothing wrong with the Squires for every day use.


Let me explain. My experience with Squier guitars has been, in a word, horrific. I've never had the (what I might consider dubious) pleasure of owning one, but every single Squier that I've picked up has been an atrocious instrument. And I'm not simply referring to badly set-up, sales floor models; I have never played a Squier that didn't feel cheap and have some sort of major issue. I don't presume to suggest that every Squier is a bad instrument, but I have yet to have a good experience with one.


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philip602 wrote:
idahored wrote:
I don't know why everyone bashes Squire's so much. I was in the music store Sat. and picked up a natural ash tele and it really disappointed me. every fret had a sharp edges. The new squire's I've played have really been good and more than a 100 bucks cheaper and that enough to pick up some really nice pickups. If a Guitar feels good and sound's the way you want. Buy it. Forget about the name on the headstock. Don't let your ego keep you from buying a nice guitar.


Yep, absolutely right! A friend has a Squire tele and it's terrific. I've played it and while sure, there are this and that differences between his and my AmStd, he still got a great deal and for a heck of a lot less money. That and his Frontman 15R and he's happy as a clam.

I have a Squire Tele Standard that I use for slide ... construction and fretwork is fine. It has somewhat of a warmer tone than a classic Tele (which is what I want for "my" sound) but in that respect, it's like my Highway 1 Tele, which is also warmer.

For that matter, I have an 83 (MIJ) Squire P-Bass and it's one of my main working basses.

This is the Fender Tele forum and so yes, total honesty ... there are differences between each grade of Tele I have. (The MIJ P-bass is a different story.) The AmStd has pure, clean classic sound and flawless construction. But there's nothing wrong with the Squires for every day use.


Let me explain. My experience with Squier guitars has been, in a word, horrific. I've never had the (what I might consider dubious) pleasure of owning one, but every single Squier that I've picked up has been an atrocious instrument. And I'm not simply referring to badly set-up, sales floor models; I have never played a Squier that didn't feel cheap and have some sort of major issue. I don't presume to suggest that every Squier is a bad instrument, but I have yet to have a good experience with one.


To be fair, the guy I referred to tried 9 or 10 Squire Teles in three different stores until he found one that was solid and sounded good. Even then, the frets stuck out a bit too far for him so the store shaved the neck. I helped someone get their daughter a guitar a few years ago and we went through perhaps 6 or 7 in two different stores before I found one that I considered to be in buyable condition.

It seems to be a ratio game. Just to toss out a non-researched and so not accurate figure, I'd say that 9 out 10 American Fenders I pick up are in good shape (setup excepted) as is. It may be more the other way around for Squire. The last time I personally tried any (just after New Years this year), I tried 4 at the local GC. Two were worth the price, one would have needed a lot of work to maybe turn out good and one was junk.

The ratio will be more in your favor with MIM too. So I guess if you don't have a lot of time or few stores in your area or you have to buy mail order, upgrading to at least MIM would be the safest choice.


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Vulkan wrote:
philip602 wrote:
idahored wrote:
I don't know why everyone bashes Squire's so much. I was in the music store Sat. and picked up a natural ash tele and it really disappointed me. every fret had a sharp edges. The new squire's I've played have really been good and more than a 100 bucks cheaper and that enough to pick up some really nice pickups. If a Guitar feels good and sound's the way you want. Buy it. Forget about the name on the headstock. Don't let your ego keep you from buying a nice guitar.


Yep, absolutely right! A friend has a Squire tele and it's terrific. I've played it and while sure, there are this and that differences between his and my AmStd, he still got a great deal and for a heck of a lot less money. That and his Frontman 15R and he's happy as a clam.

I have a Squire Tele Standard that I use for slide ... construction and fretwork is fine. It has somewhat of a warmer tone than a classic Tele (which is what I want for "my" sound) but in that respect, it's like my Highway 1 Tele, which is also warmer.

For that matter, I have an 83 (MIJ) Squire P-Bass and it's one of my main working basses.

This is the Fender Tele forum and so yes, total honesty ... there are differences between each grade of Tele I have. (The MIJ P-bass is a different story.) The AmStd has pure, clean classic sound and flawless construction. But there's nothing wrong with the Squires for every day use.


Let me explain. My experience with Squier guitars has been, in a word, horrific. I've never had the (what I might consider dubious) pleasure of owning one, but every single Squier that I've picked up has been an atrocious instrument. And I'm not simply referring to badly set-up, sales floor models; I have never played a Squier that didn't feel cheap and have some sort of major issue. I don't presume to suggest that every Squier is a bad instrument, but I have yet to have a good experience with one.


To be fair, the guy I referred to tried 9 or 10 Squire Teles in three different stores until he found one that was solid and sounded good. Even then, the frets stuck out a bit too far for him so the store shaved the neck. I helped someone get their daughter a guitar a few years ago and we went through perhaps 6 or 7 in two different stores before I found one that I considered to be in buyable condition.

It seems to be a ratio game. Just to toss out a non-researched and so not accurate figure, I'd say that 9 out 10 American Fenders I pick up are in good shape (setup excepted) as is. It may be more the other way around for Squire. The last time I personally tried any (just after New Years this year), I tried 4 at the local GC. Two were worth the price, one would have needed a lot of work to maybe turn out good and one was junk.

The ratio will be more in your favor with MIM too. So I guess if you don't have a lot of time or few stores in your area or you have to buy mail order, upgrading to at least MIM would be the safest choice.


Interesting point you have there, and I don't disagree. There are enough knowledgeable and experienced people on this forum touting the benefits of Squiers -- particularly the Classic Vibe series -- that they can't be all bad. I just haven't had a good experience and, frankly, when it comes to buying guitars, I'd much rather buy a used American or Mexican than a new Squier or Mexican for the same price. Buying new guitars isn't really my schtick; they're like cars in that they lose a ton of value the second you walk out of the store with them. Moreover, in the used guitar field, Fenders tend to hold more value while Squiers, sadly, do not.


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philip602 wrote:
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idahored wrote:
I don't know why everyone bashes Squire's so much. I was in the music store Sat. and picked up a natural ash tele and it really disappointed me. every fret had a sharp edges. The new squire's I've played have really been good and more than a 100 bucks cheaper and that enough to pick up some really nice pickups. If a Guitar feels good and sound's the way you want. Buy it. Forget about the name on the headstock. Don't let your ego keep you from buying a nice guitar.


Yep, absolutely right! A friend has a Squire tele and it's terrific. I've played it and while sure, there are this and that differences between his and my AmStd, he still got a great deal and for a heck of a lot less money. That and his Frontman 15R and he's happy as a clam.

I have a Squire Tele Standard that I use for slide ... construction and fretwork is fine. It has somewhat of a warmer tone than a classic Tele (which is what I want for "my" sound) but in that respect, it's like my Highway 1 Tele, which is also warmer.

For that matter, I have an 83 (MIJ) Squire P-Bass and it's one of my main working basses.

This is the Fender Tele forum and so yes, total honesty ... there are differences between each grade of Tele I have. (The MIJ P-bass is a different story.) The AmStd has pure, clean classic sound and flawless construction. But there's nothing wrong with the Squires for every day use.


Let me explain. My experience with Squier guitars has been, in a word, horrific. I've never had the (what I might consider dubious) pleasure of owning one, but every single Squier that I've picked up has been an atrocious instrument. And I'm not simply referring to badly set-up, sales floor models; I have never played a Squier that didn't feel cheap and have some sort of major issue. I don't presume to suggest that every Squier is a bad instrument, but I have yet to have a good experience with one.


To be fair, the guy I referred to tried 9 or 10 Squire Teles in three different stores until he found one that was solid and sounded good. Even then, the frets stuck out a bit too far for him so the store shaved the neck. I helped someone get their daughter a guitar a few years ago and we went through perhaps 6 or 7 in two different stores before I found one that I considered to be in buyable condition.

It seems to be a ratio game. Just to toss out a non-researched and so not accurate figure, I'd say that 9 out 10 American Fenders I pick up are in good shape (setup excepted) as is. It may be more the other way around for Squire. The last time I personally tried any (just after New Years this year), I tried 4 at the local GC. Two were worth the price, one would have needed a lot of work to maybe turn out good and one was junk.

The ratio will be more in your favor with MIM too. So I guess if you don't have a lot of time or few stores in your area or you have to buy mail order, upgrading to at least MIM would be the safest choice.


Interesting point you have there, and I don't disagree. There are enough knowledgeable and experienced people on this forum touting the benefits of Squiers -- particularly the Classic Vibe series -- that they can't be all bad. I just haven't had a good experience and, frankly, when it comes to buying guitars, I'd much rather buy a used American or Mexican than a new Squier or Mexican for the same price. Buying new guitars isn't really my schtick; they're like cars in that they lose a ton of value the second you walk out of the store with them. Moreover, in the used guitar field, Fenders tend to hold more value while Squiers, sadly, do not.


One of the main things a like about the Squires is all of the differet pickup configurations you can get. The vintage modified series and classic vibe's are nice options that any tele fan should consider. Granted you may have to play a few to get the right one but I've found that with all guitars


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