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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:03 pm
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L series neckplates point towards a pre 64 model. There are signs that distinguish vintage reissue and vintage guitars. One of those is located on the bridge another on the neckplate. Several others are in the control section/route and neck heel/pocket. I'd need to see that and the neck heel/pocket before i could determine their validity, maybe even under the guard and control plate. All the hardware fits but the body ageing is new looking and the dots aren't the right colour. Thats usually more than enough to cast doubt in a prospecive purchasers mind.

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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:56 pm
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Just my 2 cents but it could be on of the "Lawsuit Era" guitars. Many did not have a logo decal and some were some fine guitars. MY other thought is that it has a 3-way switch instead of a 5-way and looking close it appears the middle pickup hole in the pickguard is not factory. It could be worth more than we think or someones hotrod ahead of it's time


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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:47 pm
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A "lawsuit" Fender? WTF. dude. Please explain.

Wow, I learn something new here all the time.


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Back in the 70's Most Japanese guitar makers were making nothing but knockoffs of american guitars. and at a time when quality of us makers had slipped. Takimine''s headstock even mimmicked Martin. Ibanez made nothing but fender or gibson copies. and countless others. Heck I worked at a music store that had a supplier that would put any name on a guitar if you ordered 100 of them. When it got to the point that their quality pushed there sales thru the roof and bit the US makers butt's The US companies got together and filed a lawsuit claiming copyright infringement. I just wished I'd kept a few of those that I had. fretless Jazz bass, flying V and a radical strat that had a eagle carved all around the pickguard


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I posted some additional photos on a web page here:

http://radio-umrk.com/amy/tele.html


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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:41 pm
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Thanks for the info on the "lawsuit" guitars, I had heard the term before but never understood it.

The pictures posted are very detailed but unless you have a broadband connection it will be painful loading them!

They are absolutely fascinating. I was looking at the condition of the screws. They all look like they have not been turned or moved in decades. I'm seeing rust and corrosion exactly where I would expect to see it and everything looks correct for the vintage. I see where the screw heads are beat down and flattened but nothing showing me where someone had a screwdriver in them any time lately.

That middle pickup intrigues me. Looking at the pick guard cutout, it really doesn't look factory...the edges are well done, but not straight.

My best working theory is this guy had an original Fender and the neck got busted up in an accident. He took it to a shop and while shootin' the bull about the repair, they thought it would be cool to throw another pickup in there. So they got a good copy of a Fender neck, threw it on, punched in the extra pickup and here we are today, playing a guessing game.

Bet there's a really great story begging to be told here. No one lives in a vacuum, I'll bet this guy has friends he played with and one of them would know about this guitar.

But it if plays well...well go ahead and play it.


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Even the rust on the back of the tuners is very authentic looking. Could be an old neck too even if it wasn't originally with the body.

Thanks for the interesting ideas.


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One other thing I noticed is the compensated saddles on the bridge. definitely not factory but the are not homemade either and that might help to explain the lack of stampings on the bridge plate.


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