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Post subject: What telecaster for Jimmy Page tone?
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:27 am
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I'm looking to buy a telecaster for an early Jimmy Page tone and just for Jimmy Page tone!


The models I have chosen are:
* Fender American vintage '62 telecaster custom..(Almost the same guitar)
* Fender custom shop '63 Telecaster NOS


Do you think that this guitar plugged into a cranked blues junior could pulll it off?

Please help me out!

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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:58 pm
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Want to know what tele will sound like Jimmy Page? Any tele that you give Jimmy to play!

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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:07 am
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vcartier wrote:
Want to know what tele will sound like Jimmy Page? Any tele that you give Jimmy to play!


True.. but I mean to get the sound of his early studio albums!

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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:27 am
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There's a lot of distortion there. That suggests that the tone had more to do with the Supro amp he used, as well as any effects.

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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:10 am
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There's a lot of distortion there. That suggests that the tone had more to do with the Supro amp he used, as well as any effects.



Apparently a champion 600 can get a sound like that with a tone bender or some other boost pedal in front?

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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:21 am
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Here's a step by step:

1. Hand the Tele to Jimmy.

2. Plus it into Jimmy's tweaked tweed amp (yes, I think it was a Champ)...

And, the most important step...

3. Have the recording engineered by Andy Johns, using the best of his hand-picked mic-locker through a petrobuck mic preamp, making sure you do so in the big room at Olympic Studios, one of the best sounding rooms in the entire world.

WHen you hear those early Zep records, you're not hearing Jimmy's guitar or Bonham's drums. You're hearing a recording of them made in a studio that would blow your mind. The room, the mic, the preamp, and the tape all contribute as much to the sound as any guitar or amp.


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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:16 am
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...making sure you do so in the big room at Olympic Studios, one of the best sounding rooms in the entire world. WHen you hear those early Zep records, you're not hearing Jimmy's guitar or Bonham's drums. You're hearing a recording of them made in a studio that would blow your mind...


Hi SlapChop: that's eyecatching. Do you know that studio personally? Got any good stories to tell...?

There was a gentleman who posted here some while ago who said he was an ex-engineer from Olympic Studios. He said they were in trouble - and I suddenly don't seem to be finding their website anymore. Google wants to send us to Abbey Road Studios instead. Sad if Olympic is no more...

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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:52 am
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I've never worked on your side of the Atlantic, Ceri. I wish I had Olympic Studio stories! All I know is what I've heard on the dozens of brilliant records made there, and from what I've read of how Andy Johns and Page produced those enormous sounds on the early Led Zep records by simply using the space.

And sadly, yes, Olympic did close early this year. The "bigs" just don't pay anymore. You should see what has happened to the studio business in Nashville, and how many studios the labels used to run there have been closed or farmed out... Ben Folds has been leasing one of them for years, and has just piled up a bunch of pianos in the live room. I wish someone had done an impulse response of Olympic's Studio One for the Altiverb plug-in... I could have the room in my Mac!

My point is that guitar players are always chasing the "tone" we hear on records, but rarely take the recording process into consideration.


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SlapChop wrote:
And sadly, yes, Olympic did close early this year. The "bigs" just don't pay anymore...


So it's true, then: man, that's a shame. The amount of history that disappears with that place.

That Olympic engineer (don't recall his username, I'm afraid) was very scathing about changes that had been going on at the studio which he described as "Abbey Road style corporate-isation". Couldn't tell if he was a bitter ex-employee or was telling it as it was - but if they've gone then that's suggestive. Sounds like their development strategy didn't work out.

I wonder if the space is still there or if it's been bought up for yuppy apartments already...? (It's that kind of area of town.)

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Olympic becomes gentrified condos.......? That's a travesty. :x Should be given Landmark status. :idea:


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Post subject: Re: What telecaster for Jimmy Page tone?
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:10 pm
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jezza1994 wrote:
I'm looking to buy a telecaster for an early Jimmy Page tone and just for Jimmy Page tone!


The models I have chosen are:
* Fender American vintage '62 telecaster custom..(Almost the same guitar)
* Fender custom shop '63 Telecaster NOS


Do you think that this guitar plugged into a cranked blues junior could pulll it off?

Please help me out!

Thanks
Jeremy



Hi Jeremy,

Any of them will be pretty much it. His live Tele tone was more about fuzz than what rare amplifier or what specific Tele you have. Well I should say "fingers" first, but yeah..a proper fuzz pedal and a wah wah; its pretty much it.

There's a lot of trickery in the studio sounds: tape echoes, equalization, compression, out of phase tones, mic placements..IMHO the "legendary" Supro amp doesn't matter much.


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