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Post subject: Building a relic tele (don't shoot me).
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:19 am
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I am going to build a relic Tele with Warmoth parts and probably Jason Lollar 52 T series PUP's. I'm going with the Warmoth pro compound radius or maybe the Vintage Modern compound radius, with a fat back neck and bone nut and stainless steel frets maybe ss6230's. I'm going to get the quartersawn maple neck with macassar ebony fretboard(I know a little different, but...). I'm gonna go with a Bill Nash kind of "workingman" relic on it.

The color is where I'm not sure of, I want to stay original in that aspect and do 50's or early 60's fender color scheme. This and anywhere else is where I want input from others. A precluding thank you for the aforementioned 'input".

I think I'll go with the standard tele single coil(Lollars) in the neck and bridge. I had considered and still may a mini humbucker in the neck and a Lollar on the bridge. This is kind of a Esquire modification I have seen, namely on Jim Wieders Esquire where he put a Thunderbird pickup in it. Jim said(in a video) it was not a "sin" because it had been previously routed.

All response positive and negative is appreciated

Thanks Martin......


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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:17 pm
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Sounds like a good plan, just be tasteful with the relic treatment, as most of the homemade relics that I see that end up on eBay look like some sort of power tool accident, chemical spill, and/or like they dragged it behind a moving vehicle...

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bowlfreshener wrote:
Sounds like a good plan, just be tasteful with the relic treatment, as most of the homemade relics that I see that end up on eBay look like some sort of power tool accident, chemical spill, and/or like they dragged it behind a moving vehicle...


I second that. This is a good website if you're into some relic treatment http://relicdeluxe.com/

I think most Nashes I've seen are so overly done... the less = the best (to me).

Color, pickups, hardware, that's really personal, but I think you just can't go wrong getting stuff from the most popular brands.

Regarding colors, I have my preferences mainly depending on the fretboard color. For a maple board, I'd go with honey blonde (think Nocaster), white blonde, 2-tone sunburst or black. If its a rosewood board, I'd go with white blonde, olympic white, dakota red or some metallic color.


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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:33 am
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By the way, never relic a polyurethane finished guitar. Many recommend Reranch.com for their nitro sprays and other guitar-painting products.


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Post subject: Thanks for your suggestions.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:13 pm
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What are the stock 50's and early 60's Telecaster colors?

[url]http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=379016146&albumID=1090957&imageID=14119360

This is my friends Bill Nash. I'm jonesing for that exact one, but.....my friend has it already.

Every guitar I've ever bought started this same way. I get obsessed with a color or certain feature and voila in comes a new guitar. I'd ask my wife for permision, but "it's easier to get forgiveness than permission" thats what a motorcycle salesmanm told me.
[img]<a href="http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=379016146&albumID=1090957&imageID=14119360"><img src="http://hotlink.myspacecdn.com/images02/28/5dfd447a88e54b21a5015330f05ace6f/m.jpg" alt="" /></a>

Anyway...thanks ...Martin...[/img][/url]


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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:10 pm
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SOunds like it is gonna be a cool guitar, just as long as it doesn't turn out like this one:http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Squire-Telecaster-heavy-Relic-Butterscotch_W0QQitemZ230318759180QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item230318759180&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50

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bluestube wrote:
SOunds like it is gonna be a cool guitar, just as long as it doesn't turn out like this one:http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Squire-Telecaster-heavy-Relic-Butterscotch_W0QQitemZ230318759180QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item230318759180&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50



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Post subject: Re: Thanks for your suggestions.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:09 pm
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Bluesmanmartin is that a Nash Esquire (or E-style as they say..) with a Fender logo? Looks much better than most Nashes I've seen. Not overly done.

The Squier from the eBay link is really a gem! :D You can tell he played the guitar upside down for some time then flipped it over, that's how he got those 2 cigarette burns on the wrong place :lol: or that is what he wants us to think :roll:

[quote="bluesmanmartin"]What are the stock 50's and early 60's Telecaster colors?[quote]

The "stock colors" in the 50's were sunburst for Strats and blonde for Teles and Esquires. At some point, a few blonde Strats and sunburst teles were made. Any other than those was a called a "custom color" and had to be requested from Fender. In the early 60's, Fender came out with a custom color chart, with samples of the available options (they would charge 5% more than sunburt or blonde). The color options were slightly changed as the years went by.

You can read a lot about it here: http://www.provide.net/~cfh/fenderc.html


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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:05 am
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Hey Folks,
What the heck is up with this relic Crap? :shock: I may be on a different page or something ,but I don't see the point of taking a fine piece of wood, loading it with sweet sounding vintage electronics addding a quality neck and hardware, then taking a bunch of hand tools and errant cigarettes to it to make it 'look' like it's old.... That example from Ebay looks like someone had a little too much to drink at the jam session or they left it on the kitchen table with a 4 yr old with a set of chisels and screwdrivers.

That's one thing, but then some clown will have the nerve to say it's 'worth more' than if you put together that sweet '52 re-issue as planned with a nice finish of your choice.

Can someone please explain this logic?

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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:59 am
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Logic? Does there have to be logic involved? A lot of music is all about making things your own, why should your instrument be any different?

People paint Hot Rods flat black. People take perfectly functional jeans and make them look like they belonged to a career coal miner. People take timbers from an old saw mill and put them into their delux homes. There are a bunch of examples where the illusion of history just feels better than brand new, even if the history is not our own or even authentic. Every time you hit the distortion pedal, you are participating in the same idea.

There is no logic other than personal preference and artistic expression. That may not be your particular thing, but to each his own.

Personally, I appreciate that the dude wants to do the job himself, rather than buy a pre 'antiqued' model.


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Hey Markenbach,
You do make a point. 8) The scientist within was trying to decipher what some folks consider art. You know how it is. What makes sense to some doesn't always make sense to everyone. Music can be a very personal thing, so people will do what they want and buy what they like and then hopefully play what they feel.
I was just floored when I saw what kind of prices they were asking for guitars that look like they fell out of the back of the Roadies van on the hiway :shock: .

I'd rather play the damn paint off the guitar and have my own stories to tell about the errant 'character' scratches, dings scrapes :P .

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ya, "art" is a hard thing to define. I define it as "anything created", whether it be painted on a canvas, written on a page, or created in the kitchen. Anything can be art... cooking, war, code, etc.

Now whether that art is "good" or "bad" gets tricky. If its just for the artist's enjoyment, as in this case, if he likes it, its good.

But if it is created for an audience or client, its up to the them to judge. At least thats how it used to be. Now it seems that if an artist creates something (a painting, film, etc) that is rejected, its the audience that has failed to understand instead of the artist that failed to communicate. Good times.

I cant wait to see how things turn out.


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Post subject: colors
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:40 pm
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The coolest color I've ever seen on a Tele was the Inca Silvewr on a 62 tele because of the nitro turning yellow it kinda looked green. But like someone else said colors are very personal. Sounds like a fun project.


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I built a nashville tele from parts and used Jason Lollars. You can't go wrong with them. The guitar tech I used, Mark Simon suggested them and said Jason actually selected the pups to use. With Mark's help, my partscaster is the best guitar I own. I built it so I would have a beater guitar to play and knock around with. Who knew it would end up being my best guitar. Most expensive too!


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