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Post subject: truss rod can't get no relief
Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:56 am
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Tried to loosen the truss rod and the nut backed off. Can I use locktite on it and try it again?
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Post subject: Re: truss rod can't get no relief
Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:08 am
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I have no idea what guitar & what kind of a truss rod you're asking about. Many (most?) truss rod types have a nut which screws off when you turn it open enough, so I don't know if you have a real problem or not.

The simple answer would be "no". Truss rods are meant to be adjustble, and Loctite products... hmm... well, they kinda lock the truss rod nut tight. :wink:


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Post subject: Re: truss rod can't get no relief
Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:35 am
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guitar is a 1997 52 Telecaster US reissue.
If I locktite the nut to the rod, I should be able to loosen the rod I think.
The truss rod itself is stuck and wont loosen up.


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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:38 pm
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The truss rod doesn't loosen, it is fixed. Anchored at one end, and the nut tightens or loosens the tension at the other end. All you can do is turn the nut. As you tighten, turning clockwise, it creates a backbow in the neck, and when you loosen anticlockwise, you get a forward bow and more relief.
What do you need your neck to do?
Edited to add... if you did successfully "Loctite" the nut to the rod, the chances are that you would snap the rod, leaving you with a completely useless neck. If you aren't sure about how to adjust it, I think you need to take it to a tech.


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Post subject: Re: truss rod can't get no relief
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:32 am
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telecatster wrote:
guitar is a 1997 52 Telecaster US reissue.
If I locktite the nut to the rod, I should be able to loosen the rod I think.
The truss rod itself is stuck and wont loosen up.


Something wrong with your knowledge of how truss rod work or with what you write...
A truss rod is a bolt, if you loosened the nut, you'll have some relief by strings pull.


See a qualified luthier before damaging your guitar


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Post subject: Re: truss rod can't get no relief
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 3:16 pm
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Thanks to all for your replies.
I know how to adjust the truss rod, I just thought that there would be more relief
than what there is. When the nut came off I thought the rod was some how stuck at the
headstock end and I had to find a way to loosen it more. If this is all the relief that I'm
going to get then, I'll leave it alone. For sure I don't want to destroy it.
Thanks again for the advice..


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Post subject: Re: truss rod can't get no relief
Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 7:19 am
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What is the relief now? How big do you want it to be?
I'm asking, because in my experience, one common mistake in guitar set ups is using too much relief.


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Post subject: Re: truss rod can't get no relief
Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 11:59 am
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capo on first fret, fretted at 17th fret
relief at 9th fret is .010". I'm leaving it the way
it is. It's only RnR but I like it.
Thanks to everyone!!


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Post subject: Re: truss rod can't get no relief
Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 7:41 pm
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I recently went the custom build route and the guitar came with a mighty mite neck. The neck had zero relief however, it played fine until the humidity started to set in. I discovered soon after trying to adjust the truss rod to put some relief in...that the truss rod did not work at all and the nut just backed completely off without rendering any relief to the neck. This is the second mighty mite neck that I've had trouble with :twisted:

The upside to the story is ...I went to Warmoth for a custom build neck and I discovered that this is such a fantastic neck I ordered one for my other custom build guitar :shock:
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Post subject: Re: truss rod can't get no relief
Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 11:56 pm
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musicmatty wrote:
(...) the guitar came with a mighty mite neck. (...) the truss rod did not work at all and the nut just backed completely off without rendering any relief to the neck.

I'm under the impression that Mighty Mite necks have the 'standard', 'vintage' = single action truss rod. Those do not 'add' relief, they only work against the string pull. Loosening the nut (somewhat or totally) doesn't press the concave - it's up to the string tension to do that.
Dual action rods (as in Fender's "Bi-Flex™" and Warmoth's "Double Expanding") can bend/straighten a neck to both directions.


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Post subject: Re: truss rod can't get no relief
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 4:14 am
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jmattis wrote:
musicmatty wrote:
(...) the guitar came with a mighty mite neck. (...) the truss rod did not work at all and the nut just backed completely off without rendering any relief to the neck.

I'm under the impression that Mighty Mite necks have the 'standard', 'vintage' = single action truss rod. Those do not 'add' relief, they only work against the string pull. Loosening the nut (somewhat or totally) doesn't press the concave - it's up to the string tension to do that.

Even with a single action truss rod, the neck should get some relief if you loosen the nut from the strings pulling it into relief however, this just wouldn't happen for whatever reason and I've never experienced that before with these single action truss rod necks :shock:
Dual action rods (as in Fender's "Bi-Flex™" and Warmoth's "Double Expanding") can bend/straighten a neck to both directions.

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Post subject: Re: truss rod can't get no relief
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 11:05 am
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musicmatty wrote:
jmattis wrote:
musicmatty wrote:
(...) the guitar came with a mighty mite neck. (...) the truss rod did not work at all and the nut just backed completely off without rendering any relief to the neck.

I'm under the impression that Mighty Mite necks have the 'standard', 'vintage' = single action truss rod. Those do not 'add' relief, they only work against the string pull. Loosening the nut (somewhat or totally) doesn't press the concave - it's up to the string tension to do that.

Dual action rods (as in Fender's "Bi-Flex™" and Warmoth's "Double Expanding") can bend/straighten a neck to both directions.

Even with a single action truss rod, the neck should get some relief if you loosen the nut from the strings pulling it into relief however, this just wouldn't happen for whatever reason and I've never experienced that before with these single action truss rod necks :shock:

There's nothing wrong with a neck if it's stiff, many of us prefer almost no relief... :wink:
Here's one neck without a truss rod:
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