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Post subject: Re: Drop in tuners replacement for a 2005 MIM Tele
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:06 am
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I think we have identified one reason why your Tele doesn't stay in tune.
You need a consistent winding around the string pots. Strings stretch and try to find the shortest route. Don't give them any leeway to move.

For posts with a hole like the above, one "best practice" for stringing is:
Pull the string through the hole, all the way. Mark or cut the string about two peg lengths up the end that's pulled through (slightly shorter for the unwound strings is ok). Pull the string back to that point.
Make a 90 degree kink in the string to help prevent slippage.
Start winding.
The first wound round should go above the end bit of string, and all the others should go below it, nestled snugly against each other, always going down and never crossing. Some skip the first round going above, with no problems, but it adds a safety against slippage on hourglass shaped posts, as it pinches the end of the string.

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After stringing approximately to tune, grab each string at around the 12th fret and pull slowly, giving them a stretch. Retune and repeat.
Your guitar should now stay fairly well in tune. Which is admittedly relative - it will still need tuning quite often, but there will be less drift than if the strings are put on willy-nilly.

Also, expect to change strings far more often than on a bass guitar. Every month is a starting point. More if you play a lot; less if you don't. And unless a string breaks at a gig, you change the whole set, not just one string like most bassists do. With a full set of guitar strings costing in the ball park of what a single bass string costs, that's seldom a great concern.


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Post subject: Re: Drop in tuners replacement for a 2005 MIM Tele
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:04 pm
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arth1 wrote:
lstelie wrote:
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I think we have identified one reason why your Tele doesn't stay in tune.
You need a consistent winding around the string pots. Strings stretch and try to find the shortest route. Don't give them any leeway to move.

Istelie, I think that you would have to agree that these string windings are somewhat of a mess.

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I think the time has arrived for you to get new strings, regardless of how long these strings have been on your guitar.
The normal advice on restringing on a Fender style headstock, is to proceed from low "E" to high "E".
And as arth1 advises, cut each string length approximately two (2) tuning peg lengths longer, up from the tuning peg that you are about to string.

Like arth1, I also insert the string into the tuning peg hole and make a 90 degree bend in the string at the opposite side tuning peg, to help prevent the string from slipping out of the hole while winding the string onto the tuning peg.
But unlike arth1, I do not use the "string over" technique, as shown in the first picture below (shown without the 90 degree string bend).
I also do not use the string "knot" technique that some people use, as shown in the second picture below.

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I find that neither of these techniques are necessary if you are using an adequate number of windings on the tuning post.
On strings that do not pass under a string tree, you want the sting windings to come to nearly the bottom of the tuning peg, in order to provide the maximum amount of string angle at the nut.
String windings should never overlap on top of each other, such as is shown in the pictures of your guitar.
String windings should also be somewhat consistent in appearance from tuning peg to tuning peg, and similar to the threads on a screw.

After installing your strings at tune, stretch each string using maximum bends at about the 12th fret.
Retune the guitar, and repeat several times until the guitar will begin to hold its tune while playing.
You will have to retune a couple more times after playing until the strings become stable.
Thereafter, your need to tune should only be dictated by occasional wood movement in the neck or occasional string detuning, which is normal, particularly if you bend your strings or play aggressively.

The following video may also be helpful.
I recommend using .09 or .10, Elixir coated strings, with whom I have no affiliation, or some other brand of coated string.
Coated strings will last much longer and perform better than non-coated strings.
http://www.elixirstrings.com/

Watch how often your favorite guitar players either retune their instruments or change guitars during a performance, and you will see that slight tuning adjustments are quite common, which is probably not the case with a well worn set of bass strings, such as you may be used to playing.



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