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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:29 pm
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ive been planning to put a humbucker in my squier tele.. but it has an singlecoil routing so i will have to re-rout it any idies(<-- dont know how to write this word) for tools to the job or how to do it.. is there anyone here that has done this?? i need adwise how to do this.. i know theres a wiring instruction on seymour duncans homepage so...

1. i need to know some tools to do it or how to do it

2. has anyone done this?? i would like some pics of it and adwise also...

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You should be able to google a routing template (maybe stew-mac?) and/or you can get a wiring kit from Rothstein, Stew-Mac and others. It has different specs than the wiring kits for Tele's with the regular pickups.

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:54 pm
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Have you considered using a GFS Little Puncher? Its pretty much a humbucker that fits in a single coil route, you might look into the Modern Lead model of this pickup. Here's a link:
http://store.guitarfetish.com/lilpuxlnewfi.html

I haven't tried these myself, but I always hear and see good things about GFS Pickups on pretty much every place on the internet.

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:42 pm
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I just put a Seymour Duncan Hot Rails in the bridge position, I even put the switching in. It was very easy. Amazing sound to!!!! If youwant to just swap it out and that's it, it's even easier. Just buy a pick up or a set that is made to fit the rout that's there. Now I have to save the ducats to get the "quarter pounder" for the neck. peace. J.J.B.

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You could get one of those stacked humbuckers that fits in a sing coil slot. It keeps the classic look with an awesome sound. Or get a thinline tele with two humbuckers!


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ethridge95 wrote:
You could get one of those stacked humbuckers that fits in a sing coil slot. It keeps the classic look with an awesome sound. Or get a thinline tele with two humbuckers!


i dont have any money i just have new pickups and the old so im gonna do this..plus i like the look and the sound of it


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noisemaker wrote:
ethridge95 wrote:
You could get one of those stacked humbuckers that fits in a sing coil slot. It keeps the classic look with an awesome sound. Or get a thinline tele with two humbuckers!


i dont have any money i just have new pickups and the old so im gonna do this..plus i like the look and the sound of it


Well to do it right, you will most likely need a router, some sort of template to do the routing for the guitar body. Then you may need to alter the pickguard, and to do this, you will need some files and/or a dremel-type tool, though you could probably use a jigsaw or something too, but I'm not sure and not responsible if something happens. To do the wiring, you will at least need a soldering iron, solder, wirecutters, wire, and wirestrippers. So unless you have access to, or already own all these items, you are going to have to spend some money at some point, and unless you are experienced at woodworking, this may be a rather lengthy project, so go slow and take your time so you don't destroy your guitar accidentally. If you don't have a router, you can go cave man, and do it with a chisel, but unless you do have experience with that type of work, I strongly advise against it. I'm not saying don't do it, but just making sure you are sure of what you are getting into with this project. I haven't done this project because I have lucked out and have 4 humbucker in the neck Teles, but someone at another forum has done it. I'll try to find the link and post it...

Oh yeah, are you wanting to route for 2 humbuckers? Or just 1 at the bridge or neck? Just wondering...cause if you are planning on putting one at the bridge, you will either need a new bridge piece or have (or have access to) tools that cut metal to make the bridge piece fit a humbucker...

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bowlfreshener wrote:
noisemaker wrote:
ethridge95 wrote:
You could get one of those stacked humbuckers that fits in a sing coil slot. It keeps the classic look with an awesome sound. Or get a thinline tele with two humbuckers!


i dont have any money i just have new pickups and the old so im gonna do this..plus i like the look and the sound of it


Well to do it right, you will most likely need a router, some sort of template to do the routing for the guitar body. Then you may need to alter the pickguard, and to do this, you will need some files and/or a dremel-type tool, though you could probably use a jigsaw or something too, but I'm not sure and not responsible if something happens. To do the wiring, you will at least need a soldering iron, solder, wirecutters, wire, and wirestrippers. So unless you have access to, or already own all these items, you are going to have to spend some money at some point, and unless you are experienced at woodworking, this may be a rather lengthy project, so go slow and take your time so you don't destroy your guitar accidentally. If you don't have a router, you can go cave man, and do it with a chisel, but unless you do have experience with that type of work, I strongly advise against it. I'm not saying don't do it, but just making sure you are sure of what you are getting into with this project.

Oh yeah, are you wanting to route for 2 humbuckers? Or just 1 at the bridge or neck? Just wondering...


rout for 1 and yes my father will help me.. but im gonna wait with this.. do it later


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noisemaker wrote:
bowlfreshener wrote:
noisemaker wrote:
ethridge95 wrote:
You could get one of those stacked humbuckers that fits in a sing coil slot. It keeps the classic look with an awesome sound. Or get a thinline tele with two humbuckers!


i dont have any money i just have new pickups and the old so im gonna do this..plus i like the look and the sound of it


Well to do it right, you will most likely need a router, some sort of template to do the routing for the guitar body. Then you may need to alter the pickguard, and to do this, you will need some files and/or a dremel-type tool, though you could probably use a jigsaw or something too, but I'm not sure and not responsible if something happens. To do the wiring, you will at least need a soldering iron, solder, wirecutters, wire, and wirestrippers. So unless you have access to, or already own all these items, you are going to have to spend some money at some point, and unless you are experienced at woodworking, this may be a rather lengthy project, so go slow and take your time so you don't destroy your guitar accidentally. If you don't have a router, you can go cave man, and do it with a chisel, but unless you do have experience with that type of work, I strongly advise against it. I'm not saying don't do it, but just making sure you are sure of what you are getting into with this project.

Oh yeah, are you wanting to route for 2 humbuckers? Or just 1 at the bridge or neck? Just wondering...


rout for 1 and yes my father will help me.. but im gonna wait with this.. do it later


Just take your time, and it should be alright. Here's a link that you may find helpful:
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-tech/10 ... uting.html

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bowlfreshener wrote:
noisemaker wrote:
bowlfreshener wrote:
noisemaker wrote:
ethridge95 wrote:
You could get one of those stacked humbuckers that fits in a sing coil slot. It keeps the classic look with an awesome sound. Or get a thinline tele with two humbuckers!


i dont have any money i just have new pickups and the old so im gonna do this..plus i like the look and the sound of it


Well to do it right, you will most likely need a router, some sort of template to do the routing for the guitar body. Then you may need to alter the pickguard, and to do this, you will need some files and/or a dremel-type tool, though you could probably use a jigsaw or something too, but I'm not sure and not responsible if something happens. To do the wiring, you will at least need a soldering iron, solder, wirecutters, wire, and wirestrippers. So unless you have access to, or already own all these items, you are going to have to spend some money at some point, and unless you are experienced at woodworking, this may be a rather lengthy project, so go slow and take your time so you don't destroy your guitar accidentally. If you don't have a router, you can go cave man, and do it with a chisel, but unless you do have experience with that type of work, I strongly advise against it. I'm not saying don't do it, but just making sure you are sure of what you are getting into with this project.

Oh yeah, are you wanting to route for 2 humbuckers? Or just 1 at the bridge or neck? Just wondering...


rout for 1 and yes my father will help me.. but im gonna wait with this.. do it later


Just take your time, and it should be alright. Here's a link that you may find helpful:
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-tech/10 ... uting.html


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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:05 pm
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You don't need any template if you get a new pickguard to use for initial alignment. Don't try to go full depth on first pass. you'll burn up router bit's try 1/4" at a time. don't use a large diameter bit either 1/2" tops. Go slow you should not have any trouble. make sure you use electronics grade solder too. Good Luck :D


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I'd have a professional do it. You don't have the tools and they would cost a lot more than getting it done. Besides, it's not just having the tools, it's doing a nice looking job, not hack job.

I asked how much it would cost to Hot Rod a Tele and the luthier tech told be "about 100 dollars" which is labor, not parts.

Although, if you're going to try yourself, a Squire is the best way to screw up while learning.

Depends on how much you trust your hands.

BTW, I priced getting a regular Tele and Hot Rodding it myself versus buying a Hot Rod and it was cheaper to buy one (but that's the high end American Reissues)

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Don"t let others discourage you. It's not rocket science. Buy a pickguard that will fit the type of humbucker you have. check e-bay. If your Dad has the tools then I'm sure he has some knowledge how to use them. Heck for a 100 buck's I'd do the labor buy the pickup and the pickguard. honest it is not that tough. You can buy an unfinished body from delta luthiers for around $70 on ebay do some web surfing you will find many helpful sites and articles. You might get bold and add a middle pickup before you know it. Whatever you do it will be YOUR BABY!

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I gave the advice to seek a professional only because there aught to be another angle to consider.

$100 is not a lot for routing the wood, cutting the guard, unsoldering the old pickup and resoldering the new one. PLUS putting on strings and setting it up. That's what you'd get, and it costs a bit of money setting up a guitar anyway.

My personal opinion is it's a squier, so I'd take a razor blade and work on it with that and an awl and use a hungry rat for my router. Since Squiers have low resale value you can customize to your content without regret IF it's only the first of many guitars in your life.

Some people without experience either aren't satisfied by their amateurish work or leave the project unfinished. You want to be playing your guitar early on, not seeing it in pieces for weeks or not loving it cause you blemished it.

Also, y'all are assuming that someone has Woodworking and Electronics experience PLUS the ablility to setup their guitar (setting intonation, bridge and pickup height, perhaps adjusting the neck's rod, etc). And if you have all that ability my friends, you'd NOT be buying a Squier.

Seriously, only do this if you expect your Squire to be your first of MANY Fenders and are OK with messing it up as your first project.

And if you're trying to make your Squier into a MIM or American STOP right there, cause it can't be done. Been there, tried that, don't work. Save your money.

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