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Post subject: Esquire resistor mod
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:34 am
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Post subject: Re: Esquire resistor mod
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:40 am
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Post subject: Re: Esquire resistor mod
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:06 pm
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I saw it in your Forum Lounge post.

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Post subject: Re: Esquire resistor mod
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:43 pm
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Post subject: Re: Esquire resistor mod
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:19 am
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divebomber wrote:
TY. I spent numerous hours creating my Esquire mods. I'm better off keeping them to myself. My Les Paul Jr. mod is great, too. I did not share that one. I'll just sit back and enjoy the my modern Esquire sounds.



1- Esquire are not very popular guitar. How many people have one ?
2- Mods are a matter of taste.


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Post subject: Re: Esquire resistor mod
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 3:22 am
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divebomber wrote:
Modification info deleted due to lack of interest.


Grow up!

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Post subject: Re: Esquire resistor mod
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:11 am
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Post subject: Re: Esquire resistor mod
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 2:31 pm
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Stratmangler....I'll defer to your motto:
"Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience." You are what you are. If you got nothing nice to say then don't say anything at all.


1) all telecasters are based off the Esquire platform . Esquire did have routing for a neck pickup, and did not have a PU route in the pickguard. Do your research!


2) I retain the right to remove a posting.


Your behaviour looks more like chucking your toys out of the pram to me.
With regard to point 1 - you're the first to raise the point, which is actually common knowledge.
With regard to point 2 - you drew one hell of a lot of attention to yourself keeping quiet about it.

I stick with my original comment - grow up!

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Post subject: Re: Esquire resistor mod
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:15 am
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1- Esquire are not very popular guitar. How many people have one ?
2- Mods are a matter of taste.


1 - I disagree. More than you may think!
2 - Everything is.

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Post subject: Re: Esquire resistor mod
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:24 am
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Miami Mike wrote:
stratele52 wrote:
1- Esquire are not very popular guitar. How many people have one ?
2- Mods are a matter of taste.


1 - I disagree. More than you may think!
2 - Everything is.


1- How many I think ?
2- Why are you angry because you did not receive answer/ like about your mod ?

I did not say it is not a good guitar.


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Post subject: Re: Esquire resistor mod
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:40 pm
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divebomber wrote:
Modification info deleted due to lack of interest.
All info deleted.
I spent numerous hours creating my Esquire mods.
I'm better off keeping them to myself.

Divebomber, stop acting like a crybaby.

In your deleted posts, you posted your described Esquire "mod":
- Without pictures of a wiring diagram;
- Without describing what type of 3-way switch you have, CTS or Oaks Grigsby;
- Without describing what "Eldred Esquire Mod" you tried and didn't like;
- Stating that you attached a ("33 Kolm") resistor to the switch (position and wiring unknown);
- Inaccurately describing the resistor, and seemingly using an incorrect decimal value for the resistor.

Apparently you think that everyone on this Forum owes you their time to try to figure out your cryptic description of your "Mod," as to what (the "F") you are trying to describe, and to respond.
Had you not been such an impatient crybaby, maybe someone like myself would have provided a thoughtful response to your post after researching the issue raised, even though I have never owned an Esquire style guitar, I have no personal experience with the so called, "Eldred Esquire Mod," and I can only guess as to what "Eldred Mod" you may have tried, and what "Mod" circuit you actually used.

In 1962, the following Esquire wiring diagram was published by Fender.

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The following diagrams apply only to a "CTS" 3-Way Switch.
Using a CTS 3-Way Switch, the first switch position (top) the pickup circuit included a .05uF capacitor wired to a 3.3k resistor which was wired to yet another .05uF capacitor that is wired to ground.
This position produced a fixed bass tone to allow for playing bass lines.
Using a CTS 3-Way Switch, the second switch position (middle), the pickup was wired to the volume and 250 tone potentiometer with a .05uF capacitor running between the Tone and Volume pots to ground.
Using a CTS 3-Way Switch, the third switch position (bottom), the pickup is wired only to the Volume Pot.
Here is another diagram of this circuitry.

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As I understand the "Eldred Esquire Wiring Mod" (shown below), it may be represented as placing a small 4700pF capacitor (.00047uF) attached to a ground and to the last terminal on the CTS Switch, in place of the traditional capacitor and resistor circuitry as shown above.
I have also seen diagrams placing a .047uF (.05uF) capacitor in this circuit, which could also be a .022 or .033 capacitor.

Paper and electrolytic Capacitors are usually expressed in terms of "uF" (microfarads).
Mica capacitors are usually expressed in terms of "pF" (micromicrofarads).
A "pF" is one-millionth of a "uF".
In between "pF" and "uF" capacitors are "nF" capacitors.
An "nF" is one-thousandth of a "uF".

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Using a CTS 3-Way Switch, the first switch position (top) of the "Eldred Mod" circuit includes only a capacitor that is wired to ground, which uses only the Volume Pot.
Using a CTS 3-Way Switch, the second switch position (middle) of the "Eldred Mod" circuit, still has the pickup only wired to both Tone and Volume pots joined by a (.05uF) capacitor.
Using a CTS 3-Way Switch, the third switch position (bottom) of the "Eldred Mod" circuit, still has the pickup wired only to the Volume Pot.

As you can see from the Oaks Grigsby 3-Way Switch diagrams below, contrary to the CTS 3-Way Switch diagrams above, the 1st through 8th switch terminals are transposed on different sides of the switch due to a difference in the design of the switches.
Turning the switch 180 degrees has no affect on the design difference between these two 3-Way Switch Manufacturers.

Using an Oaks Grigsby 3-Way Switch, here is an example of traditional Esquire wiring circuit using two .05 capacitors and a 3.3K resistor.

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Using an Oaks Grigsby 3-Way Switch, here is an example of the "Eldred Esquire Mod" wiring circuit which utilizes a single .05 capacitor attached to the switch.

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Using an Oaks Grigsby 3-Way Switch, the first switch position (top) of the "Eldred Mod" circuit includes only a (.05uF) capacitor that is wired to ground, using only the Volume Pot.
Using an Oaks Grigsby 3-Way Switch, the second switch position (middle) of the "Eldred Mod" circuit, has the pickup wired only to the Volume Pot.
Using an Oaks Grigsby 3-Way Switch, the third switch position (bottom) of the "Eldred Mod" circuit, has the pickup only wired to both Tone and Volume pots joined by a (.05uF) capacitor.

Now Mr. Divebomber, if you wish to come back and describe exactly what "Eldred Mod" circuit you tried, and how a 3.3K ohm resistor (or whatever resistor you actually used) compares to using some value of capacitor in the "Eldred Esquire Mod" that you apparently tried and did not like, perhaps you can more fully explain what it was that you were attempting to explain in your recent, undecipherable, and deleted posts.


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Post subject: Re: Esquire resistor mod
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:28 pm
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Post subject: Re: Esquire resistor mod
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:30 pm
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Post subject: Re: Esquire resistor mod
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:56 pm
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I assume that you are referring to 33K OHM to 80K OHM, 1/4W 1% Metal Film Resistors.

You recommend replacing the Eldred Mod, 4700pf capacitor (or .05uf [.047uf] capacitor as shown in the other diagrams above), from the volume pot ground to the switch, as shown in the diagram below, with 33K OHM to 80K OHM, 1/4W 1% Metal Film Resistors, for better tonal results than the Eldred Mod using a capacitor.

If I understand you, the size of the resistor depends on the resistance of the Esquire bridge pickup used, and the tonal quality desired.

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Replacing the Eldred Mod, 4700pf capacitor, with a 33K OHM to 80K OHM resistor, when using a CTS 3-Way Switch, the first switch position (top) circuit, includes only the resistor, using only the Volume Pot, absent the Tone Pot / capasitor, in the top switch position.

What pickup are you using, and what resistor do you like using with that pickup?
Please describe the sound that you are getting, other resistors you have tried, and the associated tones you obtained.


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Post subject: Re: Esquire resistor mod
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:34 pm
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