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Post subject: Neck Pocket Info to help identify ???
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:15 pm
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I just purchased this body from a seller on Reverb.com
Obviously the pickguard and added arm guard are add ons and not from Fender ((( Read This )))

Just wondering if the bridge is original ??? might be a reissue body ?

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Post subject: Re: Neck Pocket Info to help identify ???
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:20 pm
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And here she is with a nice MIM Maple neck I had in my shop

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Post subject: Re: Neck Pocket Info to help identify ???
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:47 pm
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I'd say that's a MIM body, and to be more precise, from a refinished & modified Baja Telecaster 2012.
That's on a quick glance, IMHO etc.


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Post subject: Re: Neck Pocket Info to help identify ???
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:53 pm
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I would have to agree

I noticed while posting the picture that the seller left out some info on this body, like the bottom of the neck pocket being cracked :roll:

Gonna ask for some cash back to Reverb and see how they handle it :(

Might be able to make it stable with some super glue.

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Post subject: Re: Neck Pocket Info to help identify ???
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:27 pm
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BUY at your own RISK on Reverb.com !!!

Seriously they don't care about buyers

so sad !

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Post subject: Re: Neck Pocket Info to help identify ???
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 3:09 pm
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blues bondsman wrote:
Might be able to make it stable with some super glue.

No, superglue is not what you want to use on wood. It detaches easily. You want to use wood glue and a vise.

That said, if there are cracks around the neck pocket, I'd cut my losses and toss the body for any guitar that happened on, unless it holds historical or sentimental value. A top condition MIM from around the same year is around $300, including neck and everything else. A body only isn't worth all that much, and especially not if broken in a way that affects the sound or playability.


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Post subject: Re: Neck Pocket Info to help identify ???
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:31 pm
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I see guys like Dan erlewine (wrote the book on guitar repair) use Super glue on wood repairs all the time

Any way Its stable the neck seams to mount fine, I just hate dealing with pukes that hide serious flaws when selling and then act like they did you a favor.

The finish was Very Thin and removed like a HWY-1 where i needed to sand down a dent that was catching my clothes when I played it.

Any way hopefully it is salvageable, I'll string her up in the morning and let ya know

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Post subject: Re: Neck Pocket Info to help identify ???
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:07 pm
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blues bondsman wrote:
I see guys like Dan erlewine (wrote the book on guitar repair) use Super glue on wood repairs all the time

As far as I can tell, not for wood-against-wood repairs, where he mainly uses liquid hide glue (hot glue) or wood glue.
Superglue is excellent to use as a filler, when you need to glue mixed materials and can't use an epoxy, or where you want something to come loose later if you give it a good whack, like frets or a pickguard. Superglue is awesome, but not for everything.

Anyhow, good luck - I hope you can salvage it.
And yes, there are many unscrupulous people out there, whether on eBay, Craigslist or Reverb, who only care about making a buck, even if it's through misleading or outright swindle.
My rule is to never buy anything from private people unless I can hold it in my hands and inspect it before I pay. (And doubly so for family.) Even if it means losing out on some good deals. Because I buy gear to play it and bond with it, quality means a lot more to me than the price or rarity.


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Post subject: Re: Neck Pocket Info to help identify ???
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:47 pm
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Well hopefully it is stable
The weird guard looks much better in person

It's gonna be my stage beater for summer jams, Texas specials and a good tone cap are all she needs

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Post subject: Re: Neck Pocket Info to help identify ???
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:52 am
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The repair has held up well and the tele has a new look

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Post subject: Re: Neck Pocket Info to help identify ???
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:51 pm
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blues bondsman wrote:
Might be able to make it stable with some super glue.


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No, superglue is not what you want to use on wood. You want to use wood glue and a vise..

I agree with arth1 that you should use wood glue and one or more wood clamps that allow you to see that the crack closed under pressure when gluing with wood glue.
Before gluing, test clamping the body to make sure that the crack will fully close.
When gluing, make sure you use needles or pins, or some other fine instrument to get the wood glue to penetrate as deeply into the crack as possible.

It's possible that wood clamps (or conceivably a "vise") may not adequately pressure close the crack.
You may need to affix a long 2x4 piece of lumber to the neck holes on the back of the body at the neck pocket, extending lengthwise out from the top of the body.
Use washers on the inside of the neck pocket with wood screws screwed securely into the 2x4, mated to the back of the body and neck pocket.
Keep the long edge of the 2x4, close to where the neck would align with the body, on the non-cutout side of the body, so that the 2x4 will leverage the body in a manner similar to the neck, which cracked the body.

Figure a way to elevate the far end of the 2x4, or possibly the entire structure, suspending it securely from both ends, and figure how and where to apply enough weight to the structure after gluing with wood glue, to completely close the crack under pressure.
Allow to sit for at least 24 hours after gluing with clamps or with weight.

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Well hopefully it is stable.... It's gonna be my stage beater for summer jams...
I see guys like Dan Edlewine (wrote the book on guitar repair) use Super glue on wood repairs all the time.
Any way Its stable the neck seams to mount fine...... The repair has held up well and the Tele has a new look.[/

If you used Superglue to attempt to fix the body, you have probably ruined any chance that you could bond the wood using wood glue, as Superglue will have sealed the pores of the wood.
If you used Superglue, I anticipate that Superglued crack will come apart when leveraged by the neck.

If you did not actually "repair" the crack, and just bolted the guitar together, I would try what I recommended above, as while the guitar may seem stable, the crack will inevitably expand, particularly as you intend to use the guitar as a stage "beater".
This will negatively affect your tuning and probably lead to failure of the body.

blues bondsman wrote:
I just hate dealing with pukes that hide serious flaws when selling and then act like they did you a favor.

In the future, I would stick with buying this type of equipment from "Top Rated Plus" eBay sellers, who do a lot of business, have good buyer scores, and which affords you eBay / PayPal protection.


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Post subject: Re: Neck Pocket Info to help identify ???
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:07 am
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Thanks for the info
Actually the neck does not even come into contact with this part of the body and has zero effect on the stability of the guitar.
For the life of me I can't imagine how this ever happened ???

As far as finding good sellers and e-bay protection, your absolutely right ! Reverb has since added similar protections for buyers, however bad sellers can leave buyers bad feedback and retaliation feedback is common there for the e-bay rejects that sell there, Hopefully Reverb will change that !!!
Also Reverb removes your bad feedback if a seller refunds your money, allowing them to go on with their bad selling practices.
After all to be a good buyer all you need to do is pay in a timely manor.

I also added a No-caster Custom Shop pickup in the neck and a 63 overwound in the bridge and she sounds pretty awesome !!!

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Post subject: Re: Neck Pocket Info to help identify ???
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:03 am
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blues bondsman wrote:
Actually the neck does not even come into contact with this part of the body and has zero effect on the stability of the guitar.
For the life of me I can't imagine how this ever happened ???

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Post subject: Re: Neck Pocket Info to help identify ???
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:22 am
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No lie arth1 !

My gear lives a pretty comfortable and tame life :mrgreen:
Being on call 24-7 for almost fourteen years means no gigging or bands for me, I'm married twice one time to tough little red headed chick and another to my job !

I get in the occasional back deck jam at some friends homes and I teach whenever I can.

Ya it was too late to follow your advise as the super glue had already been set by the time i read your response.

Still wonder what the original neck looked like after the train wreck that popped out that crack ????, all I can think is that it landed directly on the far end on the headstock somehow ???
But the neck plate are and screw holes look like new so ????

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Post subject: Re: Neck Pocket Info to help identify ???
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:52 am
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Made a few new backdrops for my studio and thought these were worth sharing

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