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Post subject: new 57 hotrod
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:55 am
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got it today and the trem is set high, i really want to set this guitar up and get it playing to my liking. I am non the less very worried about the nitrocellulose finish, will sitting the trem flush to the body ruin it. will repeated polishing (with just a soft rag no polish) harden the finish any quicker. funny as it sounds i want to get it playing like my 96 mex strat (its had 12years constant tweaking)


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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:05 pm
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Let me take this one, Chet :wink:

This page will help with set-up issues:

http://www.fender.com/support/stratocaster.php

Also, the Guitar Player Repair Guide by Dan Erlewine is probably the single most important book for any guitarist to own. The answers to all your set-up questions are in there, along with a life-time's worth of other material. The best few bucks you will ever spend.

For example, in that book Dan discusses cleaning of guitars: he recommends several products, including Martin's cleaning fluid; but he also suggests that a dry cloth, warm breathe and a little elbow grease are the very best treatment for finishes, especially nitro.

Good luck - C


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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:33 pm
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cheers mate. im pretty handy on set ups, from years of owning cheapies. its just the bridge hitting the laquer that im concerned with still i never use trems so i guess its a moot point. anyway im off to work on my polishing skills and hope i dont pass out through hyperventilation hehe


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cheers mate. im pretty handy on set ups, from years of owning cheapies. its just the bridge hitting the laquer that im concerned with still i never use trems so i guess its a moot point. anyway im off to work on my polishing skills and hope i dont pass out through hyperventilation hehe


Ah, OK. Well, it's nice to find someone wanting to look after their finish, rather than get it knocked and aged as fast as possible.

Nitro, like most paints/lacquers goes on hardening long after it's applied, especially during the first year or so. If your trem is wacking down against the front then, yes, it may mark it a bit. Not enough that most people would worry, but I remember I did see someone once who'd cut a little rectangle of felt for the underneath of his tremolo plate, a bit like the circles of felt you sometimes see under strap buttons to protect the lacquer.

It would be a little pedantic, perhaps, but it's a way to go...

Any use?

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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:07 pm
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lots of use. I want my hotrod pristine for as long as possible. my mim strats my main weapon and naturaly relic'd, i bought the hotrod purely on the coolness factor. I really believe the hotrods will go on to be winners. Up until about a week before news of the hotrods hit the uk, I had a dimazio fs2 in the bridge of my mim. I changed back to the stock s/c wanting a trad strat then 1 week later bamm im looking at the next guitar on my shopping list. Do you think this tale counts as irony or just good marketing.


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Ha-ha! A classic case of GAS - Guitar Acquisition Syndrome. You’re hooked bad, my friend! Just give in to it and enjoy the ride.

And look after that 57: I read about that one in Guitarist magazine; looks very pretty. Take care of that Strat and it’ll take care of you.

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Post subject: Re: new 57 hotrod
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:19 pm
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i want to get it playing like my 96 mex strat (its had 12years constant tweaking)[/quote]


Well.....this is year one on the '57.....Tweak on and good luck! :P

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well its all done, actions perfect, intonations as spot on as it can be, trems back flat against the body courtesy of the felt idea (thanks again Ceri). Just a matter of the obligatory truss rod adjustment in about 2 months, and playing the be-jabbers out of it until the fretboard edges roll. Gotta say its about the quickest setup I've ever done, about 2 hours all in (tweak try tweak again, slow but right). The only other guitar that was nearly as quick was an old charvel cx290, it needed the neck shimmed as well as the usual stuff abused guitars need to get em good again. I suppose its what you pay for, a better standard of guitar is never gonna be that far off the way you want it.

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Excellent! I clearly deeply insulted your experience first post, above, by suggesting you look at Dan Erlewine's book for set-ups. No need for that, it's obvious now. Good on yer.

And now that you have it the way you want it, it's time for some pics! Can't help noticing you're listing

some strats
some marshalls
some other stuff

Consider our appetites whetted!

So you need to just make your way over to the Pics of Your Strats thread and show us whatcha got. Interested to see the other stuff.

Strat into Marshall - that's the way to go!

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funnily enough I'm hankering after a fender amp now and need some recommendations for home use with a good valve tone for blues and country. The last fender i used was for recording and it was louder than both my 100watt jcm800s together. BTW pointing someone to instruction/education can never be classed as an insult. If i knew it all I'd quit drywall and start up a custom build enterprise, ive just gained a bit of knowledge through trial and error on cheapies and been lucky enough to have friends in the know that dont mind sharing knowledge. pics will be up tonight but their not a pretty sight. my amps hammered and my mex strat must of played 300 gigs in the last 10 years, oh yeah so has my 4x12 and that was self built.

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nikininja wrote:
If i knew it all I'd quit drywall and start up a custom build enterprise


A thousand miles off topic, but are you talking about proper Cumbrian-type drywalling? If so, are you good? Where are you? Does Andy Goldsworthy know about you?

If that's what we're talking about then forget Custom Shops. That's a REAL age-old skill and craft you practice...

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no not that stuff (dry stone walling i presume you mean) just the everyday no brain plaster stuff.

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[quote="nikininja"]funnily enough I'm hankering after a fender amp now and need some recommendations for home use with a good valve tone for blues and country.

Seems that the last time this one was kicked around the Hotrod Blues Deluxe came up a winner.....or was it the DeVille??

No matter.....the experts are just around the corner and I expect that I will be set right by and by.

On the '57.....interesting neck profile...yes!! I'll say it again...methinks they copped it from Eric's 'Blackie.' ' A worn V-neck.....'

Any thoughts?

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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:26 pm
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i wouldn't know about the blackie, I've never played one. here in the UK them things aren't readily available to try especially where i live out in the sticks. I spent a week trying to locate a 57HR and found 3. 1 in london, 1 in lancashire, and 1 in glasgow scotland and ended up making the 163 mile journey to lancashire to try before buy. The rise of internet shopping has really killed the music shops here. All i can tell you is its very comfortable and slightly wider than im used to (35mm E to E 46mm overall, compared to 35/41 mex strat, 36/42 rr3 and 35/41 on a esp ltd.) but does have a very comfortable taper to it 46mm nut 52mm @ 12 fret and 56mm @ 21 fret. The depth of the neck was the main selling point for me its very similar to my 96 mexican (which i strongly suspect was a precursor for the mexican 50's series)and thickens up nicely as you get closer to the heel. Considering my mex has endless hours playtime under its belt i'd class it as being a minor miracle on fenders part that they managed to get such a comfortable played in feel on a new instrument.

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[quote="nikininja"]i wouldn't know about the blackie,

To be precise, I refer to THE 'Blackie', Eric's guitar. The one Fender duplicated in '06. I have played the '57 Hotrod, and I know the neck. I am a preferred V-neck player since '58 and know the difference in the feel between Fender's generic V-neck, the one on the present Artist "Blackie'', the one on my '93 which was a tad slimmer, and the one on your '57. I suspect, though I may be wrong, that they have borrowed from that Tribute guitar to create the neck you're playing....a 'worn' V-neck which is what was left on Eric's guitar when it was retired.

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