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Post subject: Re: Eric Clapton Strat Output Jack Problem
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:57 am
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Post subject: Re: Eric Clapton Strat Output Jack Problem
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:14 pm
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Put me on the list of "Best design of an input jack". Much better design than my 335 . Even a chrome scratch plate. And you can take the jack out to work on it or tighten it up if necessary .


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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:21 pm
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Your momma know you're playing with her computer again?

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Post subject: Re: Eric Clapton Strat Output Jack Problem
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:00 pm
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budglo wrote:
Put me on the list of "Best design of an input jack". Much better design than my 335 . Even a chrome scratch plate. And you can take the jack out to work on it or tighten it up if necessary .

Yeah i know what you're saying but a better idea would be if you didn't need to keep constantly tightening it. Imagine if you had to tighten the bolts that hold the wheels on your car a lot and then someone said "ah that's just routine maintenance it happens to every car!" You wouldn't tend to think it's a good design.


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Post subject: Re: Eric Clapton Strat Output Jack Problem
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:53 pm
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GorgonIsBack wrote:
budglo wrote:
Put me on the list of "Best design of an input jack". Much better design than my 335 . Even a chrome scratch plate. And you can take the jack out to work on it or tighten it up if necessary .

Yeah i know what you're saying but a better idea would be if you didn't need to keep constantly tightening it. Imagine if you had to tighten the bolts that hold the wheels on your car a lot and then someone said "ah that's just routine maintenance it happens to every car!" You wouldn't tend to think it's a good design.


If you tighten it up properly it isn't that much of an issue. The problem arises if you don't have the correct tools or technique.

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Post subject: Re: Eric Clapton Strat Output Jack Problem
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:11 pm
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John Sims wrote:
If you tighten it up properly it isn't that much of an issue. The problem arises if you don't have the correct tools or technique.


Correct.

The proper installation of Stratocaster jack should include a star washer placed between the jack and the inside of the ferrule and a beauty washer inserted between the retaining nut and the outside of the ferrule. Properly torqued, the jack will seldom loosen.

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Post subject: Re: Eric Clapton Strat Output Jack Problem
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:40 pm
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John Sims wrote:
GorgonIsBack wrote:
budglo wrote:
Put me on the list of "Best design of an input jack". Much better design than my 335 . Even a chrome scratch plate. And you can take the jack out to work on it or tighten it up if necessary .

Yeah i know what you're saying but a better idea would be if you didn't need to keep constantly tightening it. Imagine if you had to tighten the bolts that hold the wheels on your car a lot and then someone said "ah that's just routine maintenance it happens to every car!" You wouldn't tend to think it's a good design.


If you tighten it up properly it isn't that much of an issue. The problem arises if you don't have the correct tools or technique.

To continue with the Car analogy...maybe it's "the Nut behind the Wheel!" :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Eric Clapton Strat Output Jack Problem
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:29 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
Your momma know you're playing with her computer again?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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I'm just amazed the people at Fender haven't banned you from this site as it's people with your sarcastic and condescending attitude that drives many newcomers away.


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Post subject: Re: Eric Clapton Strat Output Jack Problem
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:33 pm
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And how many folks roll their eyes in contempt for snivelers like you who badmouth Fender's flagship guitar?

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Post subject: Re: Eric Clapton Strat Output Jack Problem
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:59 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
And how many folks roll their eyes in contempt for snivelers like you who badmouth Fender's flagship guitar?

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Never bad mouthed fender's flagship guitar. Simply asked a question about the output jack and whether folks have had any thoughts about it. It's not a totalitarian regime here at fender where i'm not allowed to do that.

The main point is your attitude stinks and it always has. When i was on the site before you were ignorant and condescending to folks and you're still doing it.

As i say your attitude does you no favors and will undoubtedly put off newcomers from asking questions in case they get snide put downs from snobby elitists such as yourself who are so far up themselves it's unreal. :)


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Post subject: Re: Eric Clapton Strat Output Jack Problem
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:39 pm
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GorgonIsBack wrote:
Never bad mouthed fender's flagship guitar. Simply asked a question about the output jack and whether folks have had any thoughts about it.


Allow me to refresh your fifteen kilobyte memory......

"The guy i used to take my gear to ( a well renowned luthier) said that the design of it was crap and made it prone to these problems and loosening up over time with all the plugging in and unplugging. And when you look at it it seems flimsy compared to the Tele jack and Les Paul's and the like."

Go pound sand on a beach loaded with half-wit whiners like yourself.

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Post subject: Re: Eric Clapton Strat Output Jack Problem
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:08 pm
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Just a question ... aren't the output jacks for most guitars generally the same 1/4 inch type and it is just the plate that is different e.g. Switchcraft to name just one brand.
I had a Les Paul but never pulled it apart to check.
Someone please enlighten me!
I say generally because I realise there are some barrel boutique styles and xlrs :D


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Post subject: Re: Eric Clapton Strat Output Jack Problem
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:16 am
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On the whole the sockets themselves are pretty much identical.

The EC Strat (and most other active guitars) differ slightly in so far as they use a stereo version of the same skeleton socket.

These sockets work well as they are robust and seldom fail. They are easy to get at and to clean or retension.

The plastic barrel type are a liability as if the plastic splits there is nothing you can do in the field to resolve it. You are also tightening up using a plastic thread.

The only difference on the jack with a Strat, compared to any other guitar, is the socket nut is in an odd shaped recess. This means you can't tighten it with a conventional spanner - hence my previous comment that it is only an issue if you don't have the correct tools or technique.

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Post subject: Re: Eric Clapton Strat Output Jack Problem
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:32 am
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GorgonIsBack wrote:

... your attitude does you no favors and will undoubtedly put off newcomers from asking questions in case they get snide put downs from snobby elitists such as yourself who are so far up themselves it's unreal. :)


Having been the wrong side of Arjay's comments on occasion :oops: I might agree with you. But he is old and comudgionly (sic?) So what do you expect? :wink:

He does have a wealth of knowledge and experience which he shares generously so, so what if he wants to be a bit grumpy every so often?

What does anoy me is when technical threads are turned into personal rants and slagging matches...although it can be rather amusing and guarantees a good hit rate. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Eric Clapton Strat Output Jack Problem
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:54 am
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Having been the wrong side of Arjay's comments on occasion :oops: I might agree with you. But he is old and comudgionly (sic?) So what do you expect? :wink:


John, we may differ periodically but overall I think you have a pretty solid grasp of reality as it relates to the topic of the electric guitar and its associated peripherals.

BTW......it's "curmudgeonly".

:mrgreen:

Rawk on!

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