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Post subject: Re: Original Colour for Ultra
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:34 am
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You are not the only one in the world asking Fender about your Startocasters history.
Patience they'll get back to you.
Venting here isn't helpful. A polite´inquiry in a week or two would be better. :?

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Post subject: Re: Original Colour for Ultra
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 11:54 am
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Looks like a customized Plus wired like an Ultra.

Someone had put a neck from an Ultra on a Taos Turquoise Plus body and dropped a loaded pickguard on it.

From what I recall Fender never offered the Strat Ultra in Taos Turquoise but did an EC Strat in that colour.

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Post subject: Re: Original Colour for Ultra
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:12 pm
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Michael Roberts or a team member there at Fender usually answers within 24 hrs, if it is not the weekend or holiday. Michael Roberts (Fender Consumer Relations) <consumerrelations@fender.com> Ask him. They have a pretty good data base that goes back to late 1992 or early 1993. Your is a 1995 or later as the serial number is on the back of the headstock. It does have all the Ultra appointments i.e. Ebony fretboard, chrome tuners and bridge saddles, etc, but not an Ultra color. I am sure it is a refinish. Is kind of cool looking as I love that color!

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Post subject: Re: Original Colour for Ultra
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:17 pm
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chromeface wrote:
Looks like a customized Plus wired like an Ultra.

Someone had put a neck from an Ultra on a Taos Turquoise Plus body and dropped a loaded pickguard on it.

From what I recall Fender never offered the Strat Ultra in Taos Turquoise but did an EC Strat in that colour.

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That pic didn't display well on my monitor...but it sounds gorgeous :D

Thought you might be interested in a big collection of EC pics...on & off stage...

this is one listing EC + Patty Photo

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Post subject: Re: Original Colour for Ultra
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:51 am
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Xhefri wrote:
I can assure you this has either a refinished body or a body swap. Ultras never came in solid colors like this. The serial number is new enough that Fender czn tell you what that neck was attached too when it left Fender. See my ultra page on my website: http://xhefriguitars.com/page4.html

Ok i just looked at all the pictures. This body has been refinished. I can tell by the screw holes and other little give aways....


Did the Ultras only come in 3Clr sunburst
sunburst, or was that my imagination?

My memory of these guitars was that they had the chromed parts (tuning keys and such), ebony fingerboard, and a dull set of red Lace Sensors.

A friend of mine owned one. I remember it was pretty different than my' 87 Strat Plus, which had the split (or half ) roller nut, the the flush logo Lace Sensores, and no hip-shot trem setter. It was one an older "E4" Plus. It had stripped of all paint, stained and sealed. What a great guitar.


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Post subject: Re: Original Colour for Ultra
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:55 am
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paris wrote:
Xhefri wrote:
I can assure you this has either a refinished body or a body swap. Ultras never came in solid colors like this. The serial number is new enough that Fender czn tell you what that neck was attached too when it left Fender. See my ultra page on my website: http://xhefriguitars.com/page4.html

Ok i just looked at all the pictures. This body has been refinished. I can tell by the screw holes and other little give aways....


Did the Ultras only come in 3Clr sunburst
sunburst, or was that my imagination?

My memory of these guitars was that they had the chromed parts (tuning keys and such), ebony fingerboard, and a dull set of red Lace Sensors.

A friend of mine owned one. I remember it was pretty different than my' 87 Strat Plus, which had the split (or half ) roller nut, the the flush logo Lace Sensores, and no hip-shot trem setter. It was one an older "E4" Plus. It had stripped of all paint, stained and sealed. What a great guitar.


They came in a few burst finishes - a redburst, a blueburst, and a blackburst (I'm sure Fender had some clever names for these). I'm not sure if the other color was the 3-color burst or if it was a tobacco burst (no red). Of course they could have had both the 3-color and the tobacco.

Everything else you remember is correct - chrome parts, ebony fingerboard, etc.


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Post subject: Re: Original Colour for Ultra
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:11 am
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There was a time when I was fanatical about the Plus series Stratocasters. I read somewhere that the Strat Deluxe had 2 silver sensors and a red in the bridge (or something like that), but later went to. Blue
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Post subject: Re: Original Colour for Ultra
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:40 am
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paris wrote:
There was a time when I was fanatical about the Plus series Stratocasters. I read somewhere that the Strat Deluxe had 2 silver sensors and a red in the bridge (or something like that), but later went to. Blue
Silver and red.

Hey Paris, Yes you are right the short lived version 1 Strat Plus DX had silver/silver/blue Laces Sensors in early 1989. Then by mid 1989 they moved to blue/silver (sometimes gold/red Laces Sensors.

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Post subject: Re: Original Colour for Ultra
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:48 am
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John C wrote:
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Did the Ultras only come in 3Clr sunburst
sunburst, or was that my imagination?

My memory of these guitars was that they had the chromed parts (tuning keys and such), ebony fingerboard, and a dull set of red Lace Sensors.

A friend of mine owned one. I remember it was pretty different than my' 87 Strat Plus, which had the split (or half ) roller nut, the the flush logo Lace Sensores, and no hip-shot trem setter. It was one an older "E4" Plus. It had stripped of all paint, stained and sealed. What a great guitar.


They came in a few burst finishes - a redburst, a blueburst, and a blackburst (I'm sure Fender had some clever names for these). I'm not sure if the other color was the 3-color burst or if it was a tobacco burst (no red). Of course they could have had both the 3-color and the tobacco.

Everything else you remember is correct - chrome parts, ebony fingerboard, etc.

You are right on as usual John. There were red (Crimson) and blue Bursts and well as Frosts. The bursts usually and oddly has a silverish edge and the Frosts had a dark and even black edge. Then there was Antique Burst and a Sunburst (with some red). On this page: http://xhefriguitars.com/page4.html I have a good assortment. But in 97-98 there were also a few cool colors that came our right before the series died and was replaced by the new American Deluxe Strat that had many of the Plus/Ultra features but used Fender's new Noiseless pickups with Fender’s Cobalt humbucker in the bridge. They carry the DN or DZ serial numbers

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Post subject: Re: Original Colour for Ultra
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:05 pm
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When Jeff & John don't have the information...Who Ya Gonna Call? :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Original Colour for Ultra
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:13 pm
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I just recalled...the only Ultra I've ever handled was a Candy Apple Red...when I finished building it! :lol:


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I had a lot of advice from Jeff doing this part:


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Post subject: Re: Original Colour for Ultra
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:51 am
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Xhefri wrote:
Then by mid 1989 they moved to blue/silver (sometimes gold/red Laces Sensors.


During that time the Deluxe Strat Pluses and Ultras were fitted with a deluxe 2-point snap-in bridge before the switch to the Mini Floyd Rose locking tremolo assembly which debuted in 1993.


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Post subject: Re: Original Colour for Ultra
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:54 am
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I just recalled...the only Ultra I've ever handled was a Candy Apple Red...when I finished building it! :lol:


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I had a lot of advice from Jeff doing this part:


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This guitar deserves a Clapton Mid Boost circuit! :wink:


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