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Post subject: Mexican strat trees
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:42 pm
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I really wish to put better string trees on my deluxe roadhouse, but dont want to drill holes, any good suggestions?,, thanks a lot!!


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Post subject: Re: Mexican strat trees
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:19 am
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I have seen people on YouTube fit the American T Bar string tree by just screwing it in and allowing the the location pip to crush it's way in to the neck. I'm not keen on this as, if you over tighten the screw and strip the hole, or snap the screw it's game over.

You could file off the mounting pip but the tree might twist. I assume it was put there for a reason.

Drilling the holes isn't too much of a job but it does get the heart racing a bit. My MIM was two days old when I did mine. I had my buttocks clenched the whole time.

Take off the original and put some tape on the neck behind the hole. Partially screw in the new T and the pip will form a dent in the tape marking the point to drill.

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Post subject: Re: Mexican strat trees
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:55 am
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John Sims wrote:
Drilling the holes isn't too much of a job but it does get the heart racing a bit. My MIM was two days old when I did mine. I had my buttocks clenched the whole time.


+1!

I always keep the cheeks squeezed tight when drilling holes in a headstock, whether mounting a set of tuners or installing a string tree.

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Post subject: Re: Mexican strat trees
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:22 am
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You could try these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from= ... +&_sacat=0

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Post subject: Re: Mexican strat trees
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:55 am
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mak1965@msn.com wrote:
I really wish to put better string trees on my deluxe roadhouse, but dont want to drill holes, any good suggestions?,, thanks a lot!!



Personally I really like these...

http://www.guitarfetish.com/Pair-of-Rol ... p_601.html


I have them on several of my MIM's and I really like them. I've actually used quite a bit of Guitar Fetish gear over the years (trem blocks, bridges, roller T's, a few pickups, etc) and I'm always impressed with the "bang for the buck" as far as the quality goes.

For $5.45 (give or take shipping), you can't really go wrong there.


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Post subject: Re: Mexican strat trees
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:34 am
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Thanks for the help! Guitar Fetish is looking good, Thank you to all!
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Post subject: Re: Mexican strat trees
Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 2:31 pm
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I have seen these Mexican Strat Trees, they do exist.


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Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 2:43 pm
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I have seen these Mexican Strat Trees, they do exist.


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Now that's some funny s***...I don't care who you are.

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Post subject: Re: Mexican strat trees
Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 3:47 pm
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donnycraven wrote:
I have seen these Mexican Strat Trees, they do exist.


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LOL :lol: Solid job there. A picture does paint 1000 words.

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Post subject: Re: Mexican strat trees
Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 4:25 pm
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John Sims wrote:
I have seen people on YouTube fit the American T Bar string tree by just screwing it in and allowing the the location pip to crush it's way in to the neck. I'm not keen on this as, if you over tighten the screw and strip the hole, or snap the screw it's game over.

You could file off the mounting pip but the tree might twist. I assume it was put there for a reason.

Drilling the holes isn't too much of a job but it does get the heart racing a bit. My MIM was two days old when I did mine. I had my buttocks clenched the whole time.

Take off the original and put some tape on the neck behind the hole. Partially screw in the new T and the pip will form a dent in the tape marking the point to drill.


I wouldn't use anything but this to drill a hole in my guitars:

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With a sharp bit, some masking tape on the bit to gauge the depth and a little patience, it's easy-peasey !

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Post subject: Re: Mexican strat trees
Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 10:53 pm
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Lightnin MN wrote:

I wouldn't use anything but this to drill a hole in my guitars:

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With a sharp bit, some masking tape on the bit to gauge the depth and a little patience, it's easy-peasey !

cheers!


How very quaint and 19th century of you ;)

I actually find a cordless drill (the modern type with a battery) easier to control as turning the handle on a wheel brace can move the point of the drill. You also get a cleaner hole with the speed of an electric drill. A slow drill can rip the fibres rather than cut them.

Ideally use a bit sharpened for wood with a centre spur and inverted flutes.

There is a Fender University YouTube video on fitting string trees. The guy doesn't even mark the second hole. He just drills it behind the first one.

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Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 3:57 am
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Partially screw in the new T and the pip will form a dent in the tape marking the point to drill.
I have done this on both an MIM Strat, and a Squire Standard Tele. Patience, steady hand, good eye (for straightness), and sharp bit.

For the pip, you really just need to make the hole a "tiny" bit deeper than the dent. And as far as drilling a hole to ADD a second tree...I just measured the distance diagonally on one of my guitars that already has two trees, centered it, and drilled.
The important thing to remember is you only get one shot at it. As all carpenters would say "measure twice, drill once".

I am an anal, obsessive compulsive type person to begin with....so the first one took a while and I was scared crapless---but the second one was nothing but a thing.


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Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 5:57 am
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White Dog wrote:

...I am an anal, obsessive compulsive type person to begin with....so the first one took a while and I was scared crapless---but the second one was nothing but a thing.


LOL. I can relate to that.

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Post subject: Re: Mexican strat trees
Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 10:18 am
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John Sims wrote:
Lightnin MN wrote:

I wouldn't use anything but this to drill a hole in my guitars:

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With a sharp bit, some masking tape on the bit to gauge the depth and a little patience, it's easy-peasey !

cheers!


How very quaint and 19th century of you ;)

I actually find a cordless drill (the modern type with a battery) easier to control as turning the handle on a wheel brace can move the point of the drill. You also get a cleaner hole with the speed of an electric drill. A slow drill can rip the fibres rather than cut them.

Ideally use a bit sharpened for wood with a centre spur and inverted flutes.

There is a Fender University YouTube video on fitting string trees. The guy doesn't even mark the second hole. He just drills it behind the first one.


Well, for the inexperienced operator, I might agree with you.

But I've been working wood for a long, long time. I worked my way through my undergraduate degree as a Finish Carpenter in a company which made Store Fixtures and interiors. We did all the Walgreen's stores (coast-to-coast), all the Saks 5th Avenue stores and all the Neiman-Marcus stores, among others, producing cabinetry, gondolas and other display cases. These had to be both very sturdy and yet look like fine furniture, all custom pieces.

After many years, 2 months ago I was given access to a commercial woodworking factory and made a nice Combo Amp cabinet. I was glad to see my skills had not deteriorated as it turned out great.

Think about it, Fine Furniture has been produced for centuries using just such tools. Power drills have their advantages, but are also full of pitfalls in the hands of the inexperienced, especially for finish work such as working on a guitar neck..

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Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 11:32 am
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Lightnin MN wrote:

Well, for the inexperienced operator, I might agree with you....



Absolutely. What would I know? http://www.2ta.co.uk/History/JScv.htm :roll:

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