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Post subject: "passing lane" switch came unglued on American Deluxe HSS
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:14 am
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I've got an American Deluxe that has been sounding a bit noisy so I opened it up to check for errant wiring and in the process I must have pulled too much on one of the wires attached to the "passing lane" switch. It came unglued and I've got a dangling switch now.

What sort of glue should I use to reattach this?

Also, is this how all the American Deluxe passing lane switches are mounted? with glue? All the other pickups and pots and switches mount way more securely (no glue involved)... seems like Fender should have done better than glue on this - especially since gluing seems to have required that they strip off the shielding on the pickguard where the switch is mounted. Perhaps that's contributing to the noise..


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Post subject: Re: "passing lane" switch came unglued on American Deluxe HS
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:21 am
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Image for reference, mostly to illustrate where the shielding on the pickguard was removed in order to mount the switch (it's just resting in place but falls back into the cavity when the pickguard is flipped over)


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Post subject: Re: "passing lane" switch came unglued on American Deluxe HS
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:23 am
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What do you call "passing Lane " switch ? I never heard that word . Any picture ?

Fender do not use any glue on electronic / wiring .

Except for body and neck there is no glue.


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Post subject: Re: "passing lane" switch came unglued on American Deluxe HS
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:26 am
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Thanks for picture , this say all .

Guitar look modified , wich years ? Serial number .
Did you buy it new ? I guess not ,

You must replace the switch with a new one . A nut should be there hold the switch on pickgard


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Post subject: Re: "passing lane" switch came unglued on American Deluxe HS
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:29 am
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That looks like 3M Contact Cement or an epoxy-based adhesive. Regardless, you'll need to completely remove the "dead" glue prior to re-attaching the switch.

Fender used a similar method of attaching the push-button switch on the now-discontinued "Super Strat" and it's replacement the "Deluxe Players Strat".

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Post subject: Re: "passing lane" switch came unglued on American Deluxe HS
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:14 am
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That bit of missing "shield" is most likely not contributing to noise, but the passing lane switch wires touching the back of the pot might cause some noise.

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Post subject: Re: "passing lane" switch came unglued on American Deluxe HS
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:21 pm
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Here's a photo of the passing lane switch in my '10 Am Dlx HSS. I would have to look at it when I'm home to say if there is any glue used. But as you see, it's not up against the tone pot. You were complaining about your pickups not sounding right. I think it's safe to say you need to clean up the wiring.

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Post subject: Re: "passing lane" switch came unglued on American Deluxe HS
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:27 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
That looks like 3M Contact Cement or an epoxy-based adhesive. Regardless, you'll need to completely remove the "dead" glue prior to re-attaching the switch.

Fender used a similar method of attaching the push-button switch on the now-discontinued "Super Strat" and it's replacement the "Deluxe Players Strat".

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Is there a specific adhesive I should order from Amazon or Stewmac? And as far as removing the glue.. I plan to just scrape it off, unless there's some other method I should use (?)

Thanks!


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Post subject: Re: "passing lane" switch came unglued on American Deluxe HS
Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:29 pm
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As I mentioned, 3M Contact Adhesive would likely work though many prefer the DuPont or Ambroid epoxy method. You might even try JB Weld (also a two-part glue as with conventional epoxies). Each mating surface must be smooth and free of any contaminants prior to performing the repair. Use a C-clamp or other artifice to hold the switch firmly in position and let the adhesive cure for a minimum of 24 hours before use.

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Post subject: Re: "passing lane" switch came unglued on American Deluxe HS
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:11 am
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Look to me this switch use adhesive 2 side tape.

Glue ; I will use silicone . Silicone is very good to glue .Hold very well any kind of pieces in place , easy to work and easy to remove with a knive if needed.

Most other glue do not work on plastic like pickguard.
GE silicone is the best one .

http://www.homedepot.com/p/GE-All-Purpo ... /100091111


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Post subject: Re: "passing lane" switch came unglued on American Deluxe HS
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:08 pm
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I looked at mine this morning. I'm sure it's glued, but I can't see any remnents around the edges at all, so they did a pretty clean job.

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Post subject: Re: "passing lane" switch came unglued on American Deluxe HS
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:11 am
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Well to me glue seems more style over practicality e.g. a switch with a thread and nut.
Anyway the pdf has the switch detail including mounting block part 21 and a note for the glue used here on the sixth page.
http://support.fender.com/service_diagr ... A_SISD.pdf :D


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Post subject: Re: "passing lane" switch came unglued on American Deluxe HS
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:20 am
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jimmy_james wrote:
Well to me glue seems more style over practicality e.g. a switch with a thread and nut.
Anyway the pdf has the switch detail including mounting block part 21 and a note for the glue used here on the sixth page.
http://support.fender.com/service_diagr ... A_SISD.pdf :D


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Showing switch mounting description see number 4 (inside a triangle) , See sheet 6 , Fender write ;

Attach mounting bock 21 with Devcon 2 part "plastic welder epoxy" or equivalent . Do not use PVC glue or cyanoacrylate glue


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Post subject: Re: "passing lane" switch came unglued on American Deluxe HS
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:59 am
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I have the same issue with my Deluxe Stratocaster. It appears to be something similar to "Model Airplane Glue".... You may remember that term if you are over 55 I suppose...


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Post subject: Re: "passing lane" switch came unglued on American Deluxe HS
Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:06 am
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You may remember that term if you are over 55 I suppose...
Haha - I fit that description very easily!

Recently gave up radio-controlled fixed-wing flight after 30 years of scratch-building, so am well familiar with Devcon - a 2-part epoxy glue, similar to many others. I'm surprised to learn that Fender would use it to attach a metal switch to a pickguard, when the operation of that switch is likely to be (shall we say) heavy-handed, and therefore likely to break the bond?! There's no 'flex' with Devcon. Can't see that lasting...

As an aside, is OP's setup original, though? Surely Fender does it neater than that...?!

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