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Post subject: Telecaster circuitry on a Strat.
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:16 pm
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The basic telecaster circuit placed in a Strat is revealing.
It turns out that the sound is clearer, the dark sound is gone.
The classic clear, trebly sound common to the Telecaster is then attributed to the circuit.
I can tell the difference both clean and distorted I welcome it and recommend it for other guitars.


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Post subject: Re: Telecaster circuitry on a Strat.
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:53 am
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Telecaster circuit use 2 pickups . What do you do with Stratocaster 3rd pickups ?


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Post subject: Re: Telecaster circuitry on a Strat.
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:10 am
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Are you talking about the pickup configuration of Neck and Bridge pickup together, or the actual wiring?


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Post subject: Re: Telecaster circuitry on a Strat.
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:43 am
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Its the volume and tone circuitry.
The bridge and middle are wired together as a single humbucker.
It leaves them to be connected as a telecaster type setup that will be;
1. bridge and middle as a humbucker.
2. humbucker and neck.
3. neck.


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Post subject: Re: Telecaster circuitry on a Strat.
Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:58 am
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A reverse wound reverse pole is more of what you are describing. A Humbucker is always one pickup with two sets of poles wired in various modes. The two can be in series or parallel.
The poles can also be stacked or parallel to one another.

As far as a Tele, those two pups are very different in construction and output, there are humbucker versions available from Barden Pickups as well as Fender and many others.
But rewiring bridge and neck together still limits you to two separate single coils which will still emit some degree of hum.

I see where you are going with this, you could instead of deleting the mid pup, replace your 5 way switch with a superswitch which would allow you those 7 pickup configurations.
That and replacing all three start pups with stacked coil HB would give you the best of both worlds.

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Post subject: Re: Telecaster circuitry on a Strat.
Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:23 am
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53magnatone wrote:
I see where you are going with this

Kudos. I've read this topic, and the other on Tele side ( viewtopic.php?f=7&t=98573 ), and still don't get it...
Maybe a wiring diagram would help, so far I'm just doubtful.

Bridge/mid together, OK - but parallel or series? [Anyway, it won't make a humbucker.]
Tone? Keep both knobs? One inaffective and the other - master tone or just for neck..?
Five way switch to three way switch, losing some pup combinations?
[Anyways, it's not a Tele circuitry...] :wink:


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Post subject: Re: Telecaster circuitry on a Strat.
Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:43 am
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I hadn't read the Tele section sister post. Almost ad-verbatim...
Hmm.. I meant in seeing which direction the OP is attempting to head to..

No.... A Tele is a Tele and a Stratocaster is a Stratocaster. There's more than just wiring tomfoolery.
From my view of building, I suppose one could route out the Tele configuration on a Strat.
It has been well documented in the reverse. Tele body / Strat 3 pup configuration in the James Burton Tele with Texas Specials. ( one of the JB Tele models also features Texas Specials )

I don't know it seems like attempting to reinvent the wheel while constrained to a circular pattern :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Telecaster circuitry on a Strat.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 4:38 am
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The idea is limited to how a Strat can sound when it comes to the particular way the volume pot is wired.
Much is made of how pot values change the sound of a guitar, this is just an observation on how the same pot was used with a change in wiring.
Just check it out, not all mods consist of buying things, this is but one example of how tinkering will provide answers to problems, introduce innovations and in my case, do things on the cheap.


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Post subject: Re: Telecaster circuitry on a Strat.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:26 am
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well, i don't disagree in that a change in potentiometer values alter tone. So does a change in wiring due to resistance values. But Tele and Strat pickups are not alike. Windings are of a different number, magnets are of different pull strenghts.
Rewiring is not expensive, pots are cheap, wiring equally so. I'm all for experimentation but one needs to keep in mind that when Leo Fender created the Telecaster and Stratocaster, it was thru the prism of an engineer. His fundamentals are correct, they can be improved upon with the technology we have available today. However a Strat will not be like a Tele unless it is a Tele configuration. Deleting the mid pup doesn't make much sense in a 3 pickup setting. Any more than shutting down 4 cylinders in my S4's 4.2 liter V8 would now make it a 2.0 liter.

I prefer the 3 pup , Vol/tone/tone - 5 way / 7way switch and the myriad of configurations this allows, as well as the 2 pup, single Vol/tone 3 way switch that a Tele offers.

I also experiment with TBX and the various rewiring modes available, but always using all pickups available. There are many available diagrams of rewiring from Fender, Dimarzio, Seymour Duncan web sites.
Questions can often be smoke signaled to " Martian ".
I think that for this discussion to be of benefit to other readers, the wiring you describe should include pics, resistance values of wiring, pots, pups and especially important the output before and after the conversions.

( edit ) I also must admit that in my build threads, I have not included much detail where electronics are concerned, but I may do so in the near future. At the moment, everyday matters are once again putting my build thread on the back burner.
Can only do so much and I prefer to accomplish less with quality rather than attempt to get everything done with questionable results. :roll:

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