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Post subject: What year was my neck made??
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:58 am
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This is sure to stump even the most veteran members of this board... I have recently purchased this neck which I was told was made between 1965-73 by guessing the Xavier Armenta heel stamp on the back of the neck. It does have the plugs in the back of the headstock for Schaller/Fender Tele Deluxe tuners... The odd thing is that it does not have a bullet truss rod. The headstock is thick but narrow and the logo has been replaced. Can anybody guess when it was made? There is no date code to go by obviously. Follow the link for images.
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:21 am
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:41 am
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Well I am no expert here but alarm bells are ringing for me on this one.
It should have a date stamp on the heel which should tell us the date!
Why was the logo replaced?
Are there signs of the original kluston or f tuner holes?
Maybe if you could share a bit more of the history...
Cant see why someone would go to the trouble with the stamps on the neck etc so I hope I am wrong...good luck man! :D


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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 8:08 am
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I'm suspicious - why is there a skunk stripe?
In the time frame mentioned it would be a 2 piece construction, including guitars with Maple fingerboards.
The logo is the older Sphagetti (ie pre CBS) version, and it's not applied in the right area of the headstock face.

What is that metal fixing at the butt end of the skunk stripe?


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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:07 am
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Like I said. Even I'm not sure. You would think that maybe someone re-carved a large headstock neck but if you look closely it has more characteristics that might date it closer to the 60s. There's a chance it may be a transitional one. The logo is new. I think a mid 60s logo would fit best if anything.


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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 10:54 am
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The metal thingy showing in the heel end of the truss rod is something I've never seen on Fender necks.
The missing date stamp is another mystery.

But I'll give it the benefit of the doubt; the original truss rod may have broken, and someone replaced it, and refinished the whole neck, loosing the original stickers while doing that. It could have happened, you know.

But: are you sure that's a Fender CBS era neck (I mean: is the general look and that X-less 'Armenta' stamp all that speaks for authenticity) - and most importantly: what was the price..?


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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:50 pm
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I'm going to stick my neck out and suggest that the neck is from a 1979 25th Anniversary Strat, and had the headstock reshaped (although not particularly well) to more resemble that of an early '60s model.
Just look at the one piece neck, the 2 string trees, and the tuners fitted, and then compare them to the imaged attached in the OP.
http://guitarvillage.uk.com/product/128 ... o-COA.aspx


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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:48 am
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The dot spacing at the 12th fret, 5th hole on the heel, and headstock shape look like early 80's Vintage Reissue necks but those necks usually had a paper sticker and no metal thingy. One 84 I have has that gap at the end of the skunk stripe though.

The neck in the pics has surprisingly little wear for an old neck, must be a refin. Can you tell if it is nitro or poly?


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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:18 pm
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I found this on another web forum. According to the stamp on my guitar and going by these guidelines I would guess it was made Tuesday, March 2 of 1971 if my calculations are correct.

The stamp was applied when they finished the neck and it was ready to be attached to the body.
0601 =
06 - week 6
0 - 1980
1 - Monday
that was Monday, Feb.4th 1980


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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:47 pm
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Possibly 80s


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Post subject: Re: What year was my neck made??
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:51 pm
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Is it possible that the 1 stands for 81 not 71.
As suggested earlier though it is probably a 79 to 81 neck.
The fact that it does not have a heel stamp makes it odd and the alterations including the headstock and removal of the original logo possibly to eliminate its true identity significantly reduces its value. Just my opinion of course.


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Post subject: Re: What year was my neck made??
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:01 am
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Armenta was working there in '71 and not '81. That is why!


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Post subject: Re: What year was my neck made??
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 3:31 am
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Yeah well thats a valid point but possibly the only one.
When did he stop working there?
Where are the screw holes for the f tuners didnt they mount with two screws diagonally so where is the screw hole for the low e. That tuner hole pattern looks wrong for the period you are talking about.
So for again 71 arent we talking large headstock, F style tuners, period correct logo and correct stamp on the heel ... your neck has none of these or am I
missing something.
The tele deluxe neck that came out in 73 with a three bolt arrangement may have had the schaller die cast tuners that may fit but this neck does not look like that either. :D


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Post subject: Re: What year was my neck made??
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 12:39 am
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I have another good one from a Telecaster that'll really make you grind your teeth. If it ends up being Japanese I'll retire from this forum... FOREVER!!!


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Post subject: Re: What year was my neck made??
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:30 am
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Ha thats funny!
Nah dont take things too seriously its all just a bit of a laugh.
It is a shame no one else has so far volunteered info.
Strange that neck of yours it has all the right markings on the back.
Left me wondering if there was another armenta who worked at Fender a bit later, :D


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