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Post subject: Help Identify this Stratocaster
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:20 pm
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Hey everyone. I have a stratocaster that I am not really sure what it is. The guy I got it off of didn't know what model it was. He buys all kinds of expensive equipment even though he is not that great a player. I know some things have been changed out before I got this guitar.

For one the tuners have been changed out because I can see the old screw holes. I also think the nut has been changed. Idk, it could have been black or white. I notice that it has Fender logo on headstock and also says "with synchronized tremolo" and has 4 pat numbers. The neck also looks to be vintage style. It has numbers on the very bottom. I can't tell if it says "040601" or "0406011".

I think the neck plate cover has been changed out because the body has 5 holes in it where there would be a tilt adjustment. It sounds awesome and plays really exceptional. It also looks like the neck and bridge pickups were routed out at sometime to fit bigger pickups. The one in there now have plenty of space, I guess they were changed back. I just don't know what kind of model it is if it's vintage or reissue or what. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks.

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Post subject: Re: Help Identify this Stratocaster
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:32 pm
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Looks like a parts-o-caster. Everything about this appears to be aftermarket. I'm not an expert on pickups, do I'm not sure about them. They might be Mexican. The neck and body are not Fender.


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Post subject: Re: Help Identify this Stratocaster
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:36 pm
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You think the neck and body are fakes? What makes you say that?


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Post subject: Re: Help Identify this Stratocaster
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:50 pm
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The Lord knows what it is, but one thing's for sure, it isn't a Fender.
If it's been sold to you as one you've been done over.
There are so many things wrong with this guitar it's difficult to know where to start 8)


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Post subject: Re: Help Identify this Stratocaster
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:05 pm
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willb41 wrote:
You think the neck and body are fakes? What makes you say that?


Where to begin? The back contour (the belly contour on the back) of the upper horn is the wrong shape (very '70s looking, but the body is a poorly done 4 bolt) and the pickup routes look wrong.

The headstock shape is not quite right. The Fender logo is a poor copy. The truss rock access looks modern, but wrong. The fret board and neck are made from 2 different pieces of maple. Also the number on the base of neck is all wrong. I'm sure what year it's supposed to represent.

Overall, I'd say this is someone's attempt at making a homemade Strat. I don't have a problem with this, as I have made parts-o-casters myself. Many well built parts-o-casters are really good guitars. Heck, Slash's famous amber Les Paul is a copy, and a good one at that.
I do however, have an issue with people trying to pass Fender copies off as the real thing. Where did you get this, and I hope you didn't pay a lot of money?


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Post subject: Re: Help Identify this Stratocaster
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:51 pm
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I paid a little chunk of money for this and am about to get pissed. What do you think these parts casters sell for? If this isn't a Fender than bottom line is a fraud. I would not ever be able to sell this guitar to move on to something else as it's illegal to sell replicas.


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Post subject: Re: Help Identify this Stratocaster
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:59 pm
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paris wrote:
Looks like a parts-o-caster. Everything about this appears to be aftermarket. I'm not an expert on pickups, do I'm not sure about them. They might be Mexican. The neck and body are not Fender.


+1 and from the screw holes in the body, this is not the 1st neck it's had either.

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Post subject: Re: Help Identify this Stratocaster
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:07 pm
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willb41 wrote:
I paid a little chunk of money for this and am about to get pissed. What do you think these parts casters sell for? If this isn't a Fender than bottom line is a fraud. I would not ever be able to sell this guitar to move on to something else as it's illegal to sell replicas.


Any hope of getting with the seller?

As to selling the parts, I'm not sure. Part out the guitar on e-bay, but honest about what they are.


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Post subject: Re: Help Identify this Stratocaster
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:09 pm
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Also the tone knob is working backwards compared to the volume. I thought that was very strange.


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Post subject: Re: Help Identify this Stratocaster
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:17 pm
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I thought it was a really great and exceptionally well playing guitar. Are you guys sure this could not be a real fender?


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Post subject: Re: Help Identify this Stratocaster
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:36 pm
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Not even close.

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Post subject: Re: Help Identify this Stratocaster
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:43 pm
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Sorry to hear about all of this. I recently posted some videos on youtube about how to identify 1970s are Stratosters.

My advice to anyone about buying a guitar is to do the homework. Go online and learn as much possible. For instance, if the seller claims that a guitar is 1992 Strat Plus, find other examples of this guitar. Look for specific traits of that particular model. If a buyer has more questions about the guitar, post photos or a link to the guitar before the purchase.

Out of curiocity, what did the seller claim the guitar to be?

If you ever find yourself buying another guitar, feel free to contact me here on the forum.


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Post subject: Re: Help Identify this Stratocaster
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:05 am
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We see a lot of guitars here that are alleged to be made by Fender, and there are a couple of common things at play.
Nobody who buys these guitars has a proper idea of what to look for, so ignorance is largely to blame.
If you don't know what you're looking at don't touch it!!!

Then there are the smartass buy it cheap grab a bargain types, so greed is to blame.
If you don't know what you're looking at don't touch it!!!

You should buy a Fender guitar from a Fender dealer!
If you have to buy second hand then buy it from a music store - at least you'll have a sales receipt and somewhere to go legally if it's not a Fender.
At the very least get a photographic autopsy together and post it up here - we all like a good autopsy here, and the advice you'll get will be sound.


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Post subject: Re: Help Identify this Stratocaster
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:38 am
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Neck certainly isn't a Fender , headstock shape is wrong , logo is fake and positioned wrongly, lower string tree too near tuners , truss rod ....no dark plug

Body.... has definateley had a different neck on it (as has been said) , also, looking at the doubled up pickguard screwholes, it's had a non Fender pickguard on it (you will probably find the trem cover has 2 sets of holes too)

Tremolo is either a cheap squire or off a a Strat copy , pickups are cheap too and somebody can't solder properly (I've never seen so much solder on one pot)

As for the "adaptation" of the pickup routes, My theory is .........someone had a cheap Strat copy , decided to make a better (in their opinion) copy, bought a pickguard (possibly a real Fender one ?) and found out the pickup routes on the body didn't line up with the new pickguard, so chunked bits of wood out to make the pickups fit in the new pickguard when screwed to the body (and had to make fresh pickguard holes in the body too)

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Post subject: Re: Help Identify this Stratocaster
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:03 am
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Noticed this because there's another topic on Micro-Tilt™ adjusting: the fifth hole in the body's neck pocket is not placed where the MT™ hole would show; it should be closer to the end.

The pickups: is that a ceramic magnet bar in the bottom, or did someone try to "boost" (alnicos) with an extra magnet bar? If so, there maybe was need for extra space under the pickups.

The trem cavity plate in the back of the guitar: middle screws are like in a Fender. Just about the only fenderish thing I see. Sorry.


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