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Post subject: Re: Need your help guys!1989 Fender EC Strat Signature Serie
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:30 am
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The idea for a reverse headstock was inspired by a photo of Jimi Hendrix pictured in the front cover of the Rough and Ready album, released in 1971.

Quote The Raven.... :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Need your help guys!1989 Fender EC Strat Signature Serie
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:59 am
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The idea for a reverse headstock was inspired by a photo of Jimi Hendrix pictured in the front cover of the Rough and Ready album, released in 1971.

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Where's the photo of Hendrix?
I've had this album for a few decades and never spotted any photos of Jimi on the cover :?


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Post subject: Re: Need your help guys!1989 Fender EC Strat Signature Serie
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:14 am
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Where's the photo of Hendrix?
I've had this album for a few decades and never spotted any photos of Jimi on the cover :?

Curiouser and curiouser....... :wink:

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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:58 am
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stratmangler wrote:
chromeface wrote:
The idea for a reverse headstock was inspired by a photo of Jimi Hendrix pictured in the front cover of the Rough and Ready album, released in 1971.

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Where's the photo of Hendrix?
I've had this album for a few decades and never spotted any photos of Jimi on the cover :?

This has to be a joke, right? :wink: :lol: where's Jimi?

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Post subject: Re: Need your help guys!1989 Fender EC Strat Signature Serie
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:02 pm
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Xhefri wrote:
stratmangler wrote:
chromeface wrote:
The idea for a reverse headstock was inspired by a photo of Jimi Hendrix pictured in the front cover of the Rough and Ready album, released in 1971.

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Where's the photo of Hendrix?
I've had this album for a few decades and never spotted any photos of Jimi on the cover :?

This has to be a joke, right? :wink: :lol: where's Jimi?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Jimi is pictured far right in the top.


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The man pictured top right is not Jimi Hendrix!
The man pictured top right is Clive Chaman, and he plays bass.
Here's a video of The Jeff Beck Group at the time ....



Hendrix could not have played on that album, as the album was recorded in 1971!

Besides that, here's a picture of the back of the record sleeve, and you can see clearly see the names of the people in the photographs

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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:56 am
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chromeface wrote:
Jimi is pictured far right in the top.

"Whoops"!! :oops:

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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:00 am
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Chromeface is one of the most informed Clapton historians I know. He just has not done that much with Jimi.

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Xhefri wrote:
Chromeface is one of the most informed Clapton historians I know. He just has not done that much with Jimi.

Train's off the tracks. Gotta get back! :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Need your help guys!1989 Fender EC Strat Signature Serie
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:28 pm
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stratmangler wrote:
The man pictured top right is not Jimi Hendrix!
The man pictured top right is Clive Chaman, and he plays bass.
Here's a video of The Jeff Beck Group at the time ....



Hendrix could not have played on that album, as the album was recorded in 1971!





Besides that, here's a picture of the back of the record sleeve, and you can see clearly see the names of the people in the photographs

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Oh my god, sorry ! :oops: I completely forgot that!

You're right, Jimi died a year earlier!

Clive looks like him a bit, though! :|


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Post subject: Re: Need your help guys!1989 Fender EC Strat Signature Serie
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:16 pm
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chromeface wrote:
Oh my god, sorry ! :oops: I completely forgot that!
You're right, Jimi died a year earlier! Clive looks like him a bit, though! :|

Ouch!! You're lucky that wasn't a police lineup. You'd have Al Sharpton and his Band of Angels playing at your front door by now. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:50 pm
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ZZDoc wrote:
chromeface wrote:
Oh my god, sorry ! :oops: I completely forgot that!
You're right, Jimi died a year earlier! Clive looks like him a bit, though! :|

Ouch!! You're lucky that wasn't a police lineup. You'd have Al Sharpton and his Band of Angels playing at your front door by now. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Need your help guys!1989 Fender EC Strat Signature Serie
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:50 pm
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ZZDoc you make a good point. I have seen dealer pricelist/pullouts (color from '90) that state "Anthracite (Pewter)" so my guess is sometime during or after 91 they went fully to Pewter as the term for the color. The color poster I have from 91 shows Pewter (043) so I guess we can call it 91 and be correct... :wink:

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"Anthracite" ? Really? Today is the first time I've ever seen that word lol. This goes into my "never say never" file....I'd love to see the pricelist/pullout showing this....just for fun.
If you couldn't already tell, I've always known this color as Pewter(043). Although "anthracite: is kinda growing on me now! :D

Unfortunately, the Serial doesn't track back in our lookup (which some of you already know only goes back to 1992...if we're lucky)
It all looks Fender made to me though....to John C's point, the later date will be the one to hang with as that is the closest date to when it all came together and was officially pronounced "a guitar!" (you get the idea).
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Well Rob, I did my due diligence looking through all my Fender memorabilia, and could not find the one page color pull out. I thought I kept one, but can't seem to locate it. I do remember it explicitly since as the mail came in from Fender it was my job to go through it, explain to the other clerks what changes (specs, prices, etc) so we could change our in store hang tags if necessary. Then I had to file in these big binders where we kept all the model information. Since it was a new model back then, I was surprised it said "Anthracite (Pewter)" because, I didn't know what color Pewter was (we had a Green one in stock, but no red or pewter) as everything Pewter I had dealt with was a silver color and came on the top of a beer stein from my Germany days!

I did find a Jul 1990 Pink Dealer Price list and it says Pewter, but the code was 843 vs. the 043? It also showed all the colors that way with an 8 preceding the two other digits vice the "0". Not sure if this means anything.

I did recheck the paperwork that came with my guitar and the hang tag said "Anthracite" but it was hand written. Also the "Sales" receipt said the same thing but was also hand written, so I certainly wasn't the only one (I won this guitar in a give away, so it was not from the store I worked in).

That is all the "New" info I have found besides what has been written by others in this post. This model sure has some interesting things that have come with it.

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Post subject: Re: Need your help guys!1989 Fender EC Strat Signature Serie
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:14 pm
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Well Rob, I did my due diligence looking through all my Fender memorabilia, and could not find the one page color pull out. I thought I kept one, but can't seem to locate it. I do remember it explicitly since as the mail came in from Fender it was my job to go through it, explain to the other clerks what changes (specs, prices, etc) so we could change our in store hang tags if necessary. Then I had to file in these big binders where we kept all the model information. Since it was a new model back then, I was surprised it said "Anthracite (Pewter)" because, I didn't know what color Pewter was (we had a Green one in stock, but no red or pewter) as everything Pewter I had dealt with was a silver color and came on the top of a beer stein from my Germany days!

I did find a Jul 1990 Pink Dealer Price list and it says Pewter, but the code was 843 vs. the 043? It also showed all the colors that way with an 8 preceding the two other digits vice the "0". Not sure if this means anything.

I did recheck the paperwork that came with my guitar and the hang tag said "Anthracite" but it was hand written. Also the "Sales" receipt said the same thing but was also hand written, so I certainly wasn't the only one (I won this guitar in a give away, so it was not from the store I worked in).

That is all the "New" info I have found besides what has been written by others in this post. This model sure has some interesting things that have come with it.

T2

Hi T2Stratman, I know you were addressing Rob but just wanted to share about the color codes. or you can read about them here: http://xhefriguitars.com/page2.html#C13 but the last two digits are really the color code, so in this case #43 is Pewter. The first digit is the case type: 8 = deluxe case; or 5 = shipped with no case; 7 = standard molded case. Fender often listed the color codes with 3 digits, which was crazy as that first digit had nothing to do with the color. If you go to that link I explain the whole part number breakdown, which BTW, Rob shared with me. LOL!

But to the Anthracite Pewter subject. There must be something to it because in A.R. Duchossoir's book The Fender Stratocaster, he mentions on page 32 about the Clapton Strat the word "Anthracite." Here is what he said as found in the book:

"The orginal finishes available on the guitar chosen by E.C., i.e. Pewter (anthracite), Torino Red, (a.k.a. Ferrari red) and Candy Green (a.k.a. 7-Up Green)."

So the word Anthracite is in the book for some reason....

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