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Post subject: mim stratocaster
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:34 am
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I have a 05-06 mim stratocaster and I'm looking to replace the neck. Would a standard American neck fit. Or what are my options?


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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:48 pm
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matthew420 wrote:
I have a 05-06 mim stratocaster and I'm looking to replace the neck. Would a standard American neck fit. Or what are my options?

What's wrong with the neck you have now?


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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:23 pm
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matthew420 wrote:
...mim stratocaster .... Would a standard American neck fit?.....


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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 1:12 am
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Minnesotastrats wrote:
matthew420 wrote:
I have a 05-06 mim stratocaster and I'm looking to replace the neck. Would a standard American neck fit. Or what are my options?

What's wrong with the neck you have now?


+1

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Post subject: Re: mim stratocaster
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:24 am
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The neck I have now is too wide. Also I get a lot of string buzz unless I set the bridge up for high action. In doing so there is a lot of string tension so it takes a lot of effort to play. I thought maybe a standard American neck would help thIs.


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Post subject: Re: mim stratocaster
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:37 am
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matthew420 wrote:
The neck I have now is too wide. Also I get a lot of string buzz unless I set the bridge up for high action. In doing so there is a lot of string tension so it takes a lot of effort to play. I thought maybe a standard American neck would help thIs.

The American neck is a little wider that the MIM. You need to have your guitar setup by a real Luther in your area. It may be that a shim is needed to allow the saddles to be adjusted properly. But please take it to a Luther.


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Post subject: Re: mim stratocaster
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:47 am
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I have a 06 American maple neck and it is smaller and much easier to play.


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Post subject: Re: mim stratocaster
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:55 am
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I have played alot of mexican strats that the necks were smaller but I guess the year they made mine they made them a little bigger.


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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:24 am
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Fender has a lot of variations with neck shapes... which model is the Strat you want to replace the neck with?
As far as replacing the neck... sure... you should be able to do that fairly easy.

Keep in mind.. one of the most overlooked aspects to a comfortable feeling and playing neck is.... the neck's relief :wink:
LOT's of folks want to get that neck... straight... straight... straight... with hardly any relief. And... they cause the guitar to play like total crap. They read all these things about how the neck should have the smallest amount of relief... that .10 or .12 relief is WAYYYYYYYYYY To much. That's all BS.
Get the guitar setup with a proper relief and you just may find.... that that neck is super comfortable and.... that those strings feel a lot more springy without all the tension.

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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:29 am
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I'll give that a try, the guy who set mine up said he had to loosen the neck all the way. Because the guy who had it before played 12s all the time and I'm a light gauge player.


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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:23 am
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LOT's of folks want to get that neck... straight... straight... straight... with hardly any relief. And... they cause the guitar to play like total crap. They read all these things about how the neck should have the smallest amount of relief... that .10 or .12 relief is WAYYYYYYYYYY To much. That's all BS.
Get the guitar setup with a proper relief and you just may find.... that that neck is super comfortable and.... that those strings feel a lot more springy without all the tension.


I find a lot more guitars suffer from too much relief - it's not uncommon to see .050"/1,3 mm reliefs and above in a guitar straight from a webshop, or set up by a beginner. The key here is to set up the whole guitar so it suits the player - relief included. Yes, SRV needed a lot of relief ("a lot" here is .012"/0,3mm...), but my own guitars have almost none.

In the hope that this doesn't turn into "yea, but... - no, but... - yea, but..." argument, I'll quote Dan Erlewine from his interview in ToneQuest:
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If the player must have some relief, back off the rod, but no more than absolutely necessary. Some relief is OK (I don’t like it, or at least hardly any) as long as the truss rod is not loose and the neck doesn’t have too much relief. Once a neck shows, say, .012" relief or more, it’s like a bow and arrow — the neck is the bow, the strings are the bow string — push or pull the string, and the neck bends and moves, losing tone, in my opinion.


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Post subject: Re: mim stratocaster
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 6:10 pm
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jmattis wrote:
Strat-Slinger wrote:
LOT's of folks want to get that neck... straight... straight... straight... with hardly any relief. And... they cause the guitar to play like total crap. They read all these things about how the neck should have the smallest amount of relief... that .10 or .12 relief is WAYYYYYYYYYY To much. That's all BS.
Get the guitar setup with a proper relief and you just may find.... that that neck is super comfortable and.... that those strings feel a lot more springy without all the tension.


I find a lot more guitars suffer from too much relief - it's not uncommon to see .050"/1,3 mm reliefs and above in a guitar straight from a webshop, or set up by a beginner. The key here is to set up the whole guitar so it suits the player - relief included. Yes, SRV needed a lot of relief ("a lot" here is .012"/0,3mm...), but my own guitars have almost none.

In the hope that this doesn't turn into "yea, but... - no, but... - yea, but..." argument, I'll quote Dan Erlewine from his interview in ToneQuest:
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If the player must have some relief, back off the rod, but no more than absolutely necessary. Some relief is OK (I don’t like it, or at least hardly any) as long as the truss rod is not loose and the neck doesn’t have too much relief. Once a neck shows, say, .012" relief or more, it’s like a bow and arrow — the neck is the bow, the strings are the bow string — push or pull the string, and the neck bends and moves, losing tone, in my opinion.

Agree that too much relief is just as bad as not enough. In my experience, there does need to be some relief or the boat don't float.
Not sure what the OP's preferred string gauge is... I run 10-46... Relief at .08 to .10. For my style of playing this is perfect-o. A lighter touch can prob get away with a lesser relief but... not enough and it causes the guitar to play badly... It will effect the string tension to a feeling of "over-tightness".
Anyways... hope this helps :)

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Post subject: Re: mim stratocaster
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:50 am
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Chances are , the guy who set yours up, probably didn't do a good job. I would find somebody else to do a set up for you. MIM necks are thinner than MIA's.


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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:04 pm
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jeffo46 wrote:
Chances are , the guy who set yours up, probably didn't do a good job. I would find somebody else to do a set up for you. MIM necks are thinner than MIA's.

I set up my own guitars... and.... I do a very good job :wink:

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Post subject: Re: mim stratocaster
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:15 am
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jeffo46 was, i believe, referring to OP's guitar...

To make a summary of this, @matthew420: just about any Fender neck will fit, if you feel you need a different width, profile or radius.
The buzzing you get is not IMHO a reason to replace the neck (provided it's not faulty), it's a reason to give the guitar a setup.
"The guy who set mine up said he had to loosen the neck all the way" spells to me as too much relief, plus possibly the bow-and-arrow effect (see my previous post) where the truss rod is so loose it doesn't support the neck at all. But, a full setup is my recommendation.

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A lighter touch can prob get away with a lesser relief but... not enough and it causes the guitar to play badly... It will effect the string tension to a feeling of "over-tightness".

I don't get the tension part.
Same string, same pitch, same string length (after checking the intonation) - why would the tension be any different with a straight neck or with relief? :wink:


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