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Post subject: Re: Saddle touching Bridge plate screw on first string
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:57 pm
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That is a floating 2 point trem, and should not be screwed down to the body.
This in fact needs space under so it can pivot UP and DOWN...


Wrong. The bridge should be flush with the body when the whammy is pulled up fully. This does allow Up and down when setup this way. :roll:


He suggested the Trem plate should sit flat to the body. That's no.
I'm talking about floating when it's stationary. 2 point trem...floating, like a boat, rolling gently, on a sunny Bahamas day...yes that's it !!!

How can something possibly be 'flush' when it is pulled up on an angle?
That's like a door is flush to the door jam, when it's hanging off one hinge, cos I whammied it when I lost my key :lol:

Man his Trem doesn't look in trouble in his pics. It's something else.

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Post subject: Re: Saddle touching Bridge plate screw on first string
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:26 pm
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Well I set mine up like Johhny suggests but others may have different methods and I am not knocking them.
Fender suggest a 1/8 inch gap at the rear of the trem between the strat body and the bottom of the trem.
I do not bother with the angled claw though!
I think the problem has to lie elswwhere. I did have a chip in the v or u of the bridge plate on one strat which can make for hard intonation but there is something wrong for it to be that far out.
Change the string and as others have mentioned check the nut, your tuner and the relief and make sure your adjustment is in the right direction but you probably know all that :D


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Post subject: Re: Saddle touching Bridge plate screw on first string
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:11 am
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The saddle needs to be adjusted so that it meets the requirements of the neck. The saddle does not need to meet any requirement of the bridge. The bridge's job is to provide both the means and the room for compensation adjustments to satisfy the needs of the neck. The neck is the thing. If the bridge cannot meet the needs of the neck then the neck's needs are out of whack. A properly set up Stratocaster does not have this issue. Fender has been making this guitar for 60 years. Trust me, they've got their measurements sussed out by now. The problem lies with the neck. It could be the neck joint. It could be the relief. It could be the neck angle relative to the body. It could be an issue with the nut.

It's the neck.
Stop monkeying with the bridge until the neck is sorted out.
Then adjust the bridge.

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Post subject: Re: Saddle touching Bridge plate screw on first string
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:02 am
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Johnny Soniq wrote:
How can something possibly be 'flush' when it is pulled up on an angle?


You didn't read the bit about the strings being slackened off did you?
In retrospect I should have said remove the strings and springs - that way there's nothing to get confused about :)

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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:03 am
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Johnny Soniq wrote:
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How can something possibly be 'flush' when it is pulled up on an angle?
That's like a door is flush to the door jam, when it's hanging off one hinge, cos I whammied it when I lost my key :lol:

Man his Trem doesn't look in trouble in his pics. It's something else.


Comprehension! Properly setup, start with the bridge flush to the body, front and back, then achieve the floating balance with the springs and strings, leaving the bridge floating. What was suggested earlier was that the front of the bridge was too high and should be lowered by adjusting the two posts. Either I didn't explain it clearly enough, and/or you are a little dense. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Saddle touching Bridge plate screw on first string
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:04 am
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Post subject: Re: Saddle touching Bridge plate screw on first string
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:42 am
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From the pictures the only thing that appears might be causing the problem could be the length of the high E string may not be set to scale. That's the first thing that needs to be checked before setting the intonation. Make sure the scale length is set properly. With this done there should not be any interference between the screw head and the saddle.

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