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Post subject: Re: New Stratocaster American Standard with a few "issues"
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:05 pm
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There is zero danger of me damaging my guitar!
Famous last words... :lol:

OK, I'll try to manage with my frustrations on your posts, you take the guitar to a luthier. We have a deal? :wink:

BTW, it's a Bi-Flex truss rod...


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Post subject: Re: New Stratocaster American Standard with a few "issues"
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:00 pm
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Howdy my fellow Strat lovers!!! :)
Is this normal? I thought the truss rod would keep turning and even allow a "negative" relief!?

Help?

PS: The guitar settles for over one week. I couldn't turn the truss rod... Just to clarify that! :)

Sorry for bumping this... Just wondering if anyone could advise me on my truss rod.
Is it normal to not be able to have 0 relief before I can no longer turn the truss rod?


No it is not normal but why are you trying for negative or zero relief when you seem to already be having rattling issues?
The action of the strat is a balancing issue with a number of factors including relief, bridge height, neck angle and nut. :D


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Post subject: Re: New Stratocaster American Standard with a few "issues"
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:18 pm
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jimmy_james wrote:
milcs wrote:
milcs wrote:
Howdy my fellow Strat lovers!!! :)
Is this normal? I thought the truss rod would keep turning and even allow a "negative" relief!?

Help?

PS: The guitar settles for over one week. I couldn't turn the truss rod... Just to clarify that! :)

Sorry for bumping this... Just wondering if anyone could advise me on my truss rod.
Is it normal to not be able to have 0 relief before I can no longer turn the truss rod?


No it is not normal but why are you trying for negative or zero relief when you seem to already be having rattling issues?
The action of the strat is a balancing issue with a number of factors including relief, bridge height, neck angle and nut. :D

I think I don't really have buzz anymore! I mean... I do, but I have changed my touch and picking to what I think is a more adequate way of playing (YES... this is how much one learns trying to get to know their guitars! Not only hardware, but technically... I think I progressed more since I have bought my strat than the whole year I was playing electric!!!!).

In fact, I have my action set quite low now and it is playing quite well! I like it as it is and I plan to take it to the luthier on Tuesday to have it setup around that. For the relief, I don't really want to go lower. If I fret the 1st and 17th fret (where the neck joins the body), the string almost touches the 8th fret.

What I am doing... and I hope this is clear to everyone... Is part of the process of getting to KNOW my strat (and also making sure everything is at is supposed to be). And trust me, as I mentioned, getting to know my strat taught me so much more than I could have ever imagined before I embarked in this journey!

Anyway... I will check the truss rod with the luthier. But what can cause a truss rod not to turn anymore? Would it be a problem with the neck or the truss rod itself?


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Post subject: Re: New Stratocaster American Standard with a few "issues"
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:20 pm
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jmattis wrote:
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There is zero danger of me damaging my guitar!
Famous last words... :lol:

OK, I'll try to manage with my frustrations on your posts, you take the guitar to a luthier. We have a deal? :wink:

BTW, it's a Bi-Flex truss rod...


:D You do know... I will keep on having lots of questions, even after it has seen the luthier, right!? :D I am that kind of guy... My poor parents suffered quite a bit! :lol:


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Post subject: Re: New Stratocaster American Standard with a few "issues"
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:22 pm
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Hello!
Just visited the luthier today! Amazing guys, really cool and old workshop, filled with guitars that my mind can't even begin to compute!!
Anyway... We have gone through the issues I described along the thread. He told me "you question too much!". :)
He told me that the only issue is the truss rod. He said that it is tight and difficult to tighten further (I am at about 0.01'' relief now). He said that the worst is that the little key that was shipped with the guitar to turn the truss rod, fits a bit losely and there's the danger of "eating" the metal (sorry for the lack of the proper English word). He said that this is because fender uses less than stellar hardware for the truss rod.... Anyway, he told me not to let anyone that is not a professional to touch the truss rod.

Besides that he said "I like the guitar and I think it's ok". He basically said that, besides the nut, the guitar is perfectly fine (I knew it, but it's always great to hear it from someone that knows what they are talking about). He also told me not to go back to fender as they would prob change it for a new guitar and I could end up with a worst guitar.

So there I am, in this magic workshop, with this guy with whom I wanted to spend all my day and, after we were speaking for a while and looking at the guitar he tells me "take the guitar, play it a lot and come back in a month!" :) he told me it was pointless to do a setup without making sure the guitar settled all it had to settle. :D


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Post subject: Re: New Stratocaster American Standard with a few "issues"
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:49 pm
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Cool... perhaps stop tweaking the daylights out of it while it has a chance to settle?... Like,,, leave the truss alone, etc... not meaning to sound snarky... just sayin'...

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Post subject: Re: New Stratocaster American Standard with a few "issues"
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:21 pm
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Cool... perhaps stop tweaking the daylights out of it while it has a chance to settle?... Like,,, leave the truss alone, etc... not meaning to sound snarky... just sayin'...

Ahaha! Don't worry... I haven't touched the truss rod in a long time! Not that it's my favourite hobby! :D
Nah, now I am done tweaking! In January I will have the setup made! But pretty much he told me I did a good job! I am proud of myself!!! 1- I own an american strat; 2- I got to know her like no one else by learning all her perfections and imperfections, 3- I learned a lot while doing so, 4- I didn't kill her! :D
What else can a man desire?

Anyway... I would like to thank all of you for your help, advise, suggestions (and patience, of course!!!)!


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