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Post subject: Re: Inaccurate Round-Lam on New American Vintage Series Stra
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:30 am
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The dot spacing on the '52 Tele at the 12th fret could be correct, they went wider in late '52 into '53.
Fender also used Indian Rosewood for the fingerboards, I had a late '62 Stratocaster that was for sure IRW. SRV's #1 also had IRW and they used more of that species in the later models.
However the round-lam thickness on the AVRI is on the thicker side, the majority had thinner RW.


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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:16 am
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I thought they were going to introduce more colors on the AVRI series every so often, or add to the line up? I hate to think Fender just stopped this series, it was the best they have put out IMHO.


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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:53 am
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The dot spacing on the '52 Tele at the 12th fret could be correct, they went wider in late '52 into '53.
Fender also used Indian Rosewood for the fingerboards, I had a late '62 Stratocaster that was for sure IRW. SRV's #1 also had IRW and they used more of that species in the later models.
However the round-lam thickness on the AVRI is on the thicker side, the majority had thinner RW.


I now suspect that the dot spacing on the AV '52 Tele was just another way of differentiating them from the previous version since it could still be considered correct for 1952. Either that or Fender was planning to name the new model the "AV '53 Telecaster" until marketing said "don't give up the 'brand equity' we have in the '52 Tele model name since we're changing every other model in the line".

The round-lam - that's not going to change until the next major revamp of the line, which probably won't be for at least another decade.

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I thought they were going to introduce more colors on the AVRI series every so often, or add to the line up? I hate to think Fender just stopped this series, it was the best they have put out IMHO.


That was what I thought as well - but correct me if I'm wrong that there haven't been any limited runs for 2015; the last run came out in November/December 2014 (Fiesta Red '64 Tele and Burgundy Mist '65 Strat). These are quite expensive and likely aren't selling that many units compared to the other Fender model lines, so they could just be matching demand and not doing new runs until they get enough orders to justify putting them into the production cycle.


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Post subject: Re: Inaccurate Round-Lam on New American Vintage Series Stra
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:25 am
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"That was what I thought as well - but correct me if I'm wrong that there haven't been any limited runs for 2015; the last run came out in November/December 2014 (Fiesta Red '64 Tele and Burgundy Mist '65 Strat). These are quite expensive and likely aren't selling that many units compared to the other Fender model lines, so they could just be matching demand and not doing new runs until they get enough orders to justify putting them into the production cycle."
You are right John, I've been waiting for these limited runs, looks like they dropped the whole idea, it's a shame, these new AVRI's made me want to buy new Fenders again.


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Post subject: Re: Inaccurate Round-Lam on New American Vintage Series Stra
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:59 am
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You are right John, I've been waiting for these limited runs, looks like they dropped the whole idea, it's a shame, these new AVRI's made me want to buy new Fenders again.


I would not be so quick to dismiss the new AVS re-issues......they're still very fine guitars in their own right. Yes, there is a discrepancy with the thickness of the lam-board rosewood and yeah, we'd all like to see additional color options. But they're superb guitars, perhaps the best regular production instruments that Fender has offered in a very long time. Better to mount a concerted lobbying campaign to compel FMIC to improve and refine their specs than to just pooh-pooh them and walk away.

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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:16 am
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my56strat wrote:
You are right John, I've been waiting for these limited runs, looks like they dropped the whole idea, it's a shame, these new AVRI's made me want to buy new Fenders again.


I would not be so quick to dismiss the new AVS re-issues......they're still very fine guitars in their own right. Yes, there is a discrepancy with the thickness of the lam-board rosewood and yeah, we'd all like to see additional color options. But they're superb guitars, perhaps the best regular production instruments that Fender has offered in a very long time. Better to mount a concerted lobbying campaign to compel FMIC to improve and refine their specs than to just pooh-pooh them and walk away.

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I agree - these are fine instruments, and you are never going to get an "exact copy" of a vintage guitar with these; you're getting a decent representation of them. If the sales have stagnated a bit (and let's face it the AVs have never sold at the volume of the American Standards, etc.) then they may just be waiting for a commitment from GC/MF, Sweetwater, etc. before rolling out new set of colors.

Also Fender has committed a lot of resources to this "10 for '15" series - 500 unique models per month for 10 months. You add that to the paid-for FSRs (like those rosewood neck Strats for Guitar Center) and they're not going to roll out a slower-selling item like a new color for the AVs.


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Post subject: Re: Inaccurate Round-Lam on New American Vintage Series Stra
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:55 am
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Also Fender has committed a lot of resources to this "10 for '15" series - 500 unique models per month for 10 months. You add that to the paid-for FSRs (like those rosewood neck Strats for Guitar Center) and they're not going to roll out a slower-selling item like a new color for the AVs.


+1

Another factor is the inescapable reality that the entire planet is awash in electric guitars -- most of them Fenders -- and the global economic slump isn't very conducive to moving products, especially high-end instruments such as the AVS instruments. Thus it would seem that FMIC is its own worst enemy.

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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:39 pm
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Don't miss understand me, the round lam was the only spec I didn't care for, I played a few different of these models , and they were all great.I have a AVRI blonde 56' strat for over a year now and it is about the best strat I've had period. and I've had many, blows away the many CS's and some vintage I've had. The only reason I'm saying I won't be buying new Fenders is because it appears the have stopped adding to the AVRI series, I would love to see new models and custom colors, a two tone burst, 56' strat in ash with a hardtail would get my wallet flying out of my pocket!


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Post subject: Re: Inaccurate Round-Lam on New American Vintage Series Stra
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:59 pm
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my56strat wrote:
...a two tone burst, 56' strat in ash with a hardtail would get my wallet flying out of my pocket!


Mine too!!!

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