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Post subject: Spot the deliberate mistake
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:56 pm
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Post subject: Re: Spot the deliberate mistake
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:58 pm
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is it true they wind the strings the the opposite direction in the southern hemisphere?

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Post subject: Re: Spot the deliberate mistake
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:33 pm
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Does it sound better that way?
I'm sure someone would say it improves the tone.

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Post subject: Re: Spot the deliberate mistake
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:42 pm
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There's another mistake, which IMO is worse. The first time around the pole goes on top, and the rest below. That way, the string end is locked in place. As it is, the strings have a risk of unraveling at speed and kissing your cornea.


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Post subject: Re: Spot the deliberate mistake
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:26 pm
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arth1 wrote:
There's another mistake, which IMO is worse. The first time around the pole goes on top, and the rest below. That way, the string end is locked in place. As it is, the strings have a risk of unraveling at speed and kissing your cornea.


Yeah, that happened to a friend of mine, he lost most of his eyesight on his right eye for a few weeks. His situation was not helped by the asymmetrical haircut he sported at the time, covering his left eye :lol:

But seriously, wind your strings properly.


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Post subject: Re: Spot the deliberate mistake
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:50 pm
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Hmmmm.... I've never had one of the stings run amok like that on any of the Strats I've had w/ Vintage Tuners... or seen that happen w/ the Vintage Tuners to anyone else.

The modern one's... yeah... fully agree... wrap over under for the lock... but the old school tuners... I don't think it's an issue... however... It would totally suck to be wrong about that have something like that happen.

What type of tuners was the Cat who had the string go ballistic on his eye using?

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Post subject: Re: Spot the deliberate mistake
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:59 pm
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Strat-Slinger wrote:
What type of tuners was the Cat who had the string go ballistic on his eye using?


This was 11 years ago, but if I'm not mistaken he had a MIJ Jaguar (or perhaps it was a Jazzmaster) at the time, made in the late nineties or early naughties. All of the different versions available at that time had vintage tuners I think.


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Post subject: Re: Spot the deliberate mistake
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:13 am
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I'd have to kill myself..


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Post subject: Re: Spot the deliberate mistake
Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:04 am
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arth1 wrote:
There's another mistake, which IMO is worse. The first time around the pole goes on top, and the rest below. That way, the string end is locked in place. As it is, the strings have a risk of unraveling at speed and kissing your cornea.


Hi There!
Could you please explain your sentence a little bit better?
I didn't fully understand.
I just got my first guitar with vintage tuners and at the first strings change I realized I love them,
But I would like to be sure strings are not unraveling!!!
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Post subject: Re: Spot the deliberate mistake
Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:25 pm
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I'd love to see what it looks like at the nut.


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Post subject: Re: Spot the deliberate mistake
Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:17 pm
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pretto84 wrote:
arth1 wrote:
There's another mistake, which IMO is worse. The first time around the pole goes on top, and the rest below. That way, the string end is locked in place. As it is, the strings have a risk of unraveling at speed and kissing your cornea.


Hi There!
Could you please explain your sentence a little bit better?
I didn't fully understand.
I just got my first guitar with vintage tuners and at the first strings change I realized I love them,
But I would like to be sure strings are not unraveling!!!
Thanks


I'm not sure what is confusing. But I'll attempt a diagram:

1
0
2
3
4
headstock

It the string goes into a slot or hole marked 0, then the first round (somewhat more than 360 degrees) should circle the post at 1, then cross down to 2 and spiral down to 3, 4 and so on. That way, the tighter the string is, the more the end piece at 0 is squeezed between 1 and 2, so it won't come loose. If you just go downwards, there's nothing holding the string except the hole or slot, and if it comes loose, the string will unwind itself, at high speed.
it may stay put ten times, or a hundred times. But the risk is always there, and it's an easy precaution to take.


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Post subject: Re: Spot the deliberate mistake
Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:54 pm
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arth1 wrote:
pretto84 wrote:
arth1 wrote:
There's another mistake, which IMO is worse. The first time around the pole goes on top, and the rest below. That way, the string end is locked in place. As it is, the strings have a risk of unraveling at speed and kissing your cornea.


Hi There!
Could you please explain your sentence a little bit better?
I didn't fully understand.
I just got my first guitar with vintage tuners and at the first strings change I realized I love them,
But I would like to be sure strings are not unraveling!!!
Thanks


I'm not sure what is confusing. But I'll attempt a diagram:

1
0
2
3
4
headstock

It the string goes into a slot or hole marked 0, then the first round (somewhat more than 360 degrees) should circle the post at 1, then cross down to 2 and spiral down to 3, 4 and so on. That way, the tighter the string is, the more the end piece at 0 is squeezed between 1 and 2, so it won't come loose. If you just go downwards, there's nothing holding the string except the hole or slot, and if it comes loose, the string will unwind itself, at high speed.
it may stay put ten times, or a hundred times. But the risk is always there, and it's an easy precaution to take.


Thanks a lot,
Now I understood it completely. It sounds very reasonable and I'll adopt this procedure from now on.
For sure the string end cannot slip out of the hole with that "extra" turning which holds it down.
Clever!
Thanks again

Alberto


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Post subject: Re: Spot the deliberate mistake
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:47 am
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arth1 wrote:
There's another mistake, which IMO is worse. The first time around the pole goes on top, and the rest below. That way, the string end is locked in place. As it is, the strings have a risk of unraveling at speed and kissing your cornea.


well in the (almost 50) years I've been playing guitar, and perhaps 15,000+ string changes,, never once has this happened... hey,, Maybe I have a lucky cornea?


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Post subject: Re: Spot the deliberate mistake
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:56 am
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wind neatly in a downward pattern, being carefull to prevent overlapping of the strings

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Post subject: Re: Spot the deliberate mistake
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:09 pm
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KidBlast wrote:
arth1 wrote:
There's another mistake, which IMO is worse. The first time around the pole goes on top, and the rest below. That way, the string end is locked in place. As it is, the strings have a risk of unraveling at speed and kissing your cornea.


well in the (almost 50) years I've been playing guitar, and perhaps 15,000+ string changes,, never once has this happened... hey,, Maybe I have a lucky cornea?

The odds of it happening are pretty low, but it has, in fact, happened.

Even if the risk is low, the prevention is easy, and given the potentially catastrophic result it's not worth taking the chance.

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