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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:30 pm
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I prefer humbuckers over all, BUT I have nothing against single coils.
If I were to buy a Strat--I'd buy one with all single coils.
For years I've ignored suggestions to put a humbucker in my Mustang--whether they suggest a full size, min, stacked or rails or whatever.

Those single coils are part of what gives my Mustang that sound I love from it. I feel the same way about Strats.

Fortunately I own guitars with both, and I can use what fits best.

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I've always wondered why you would get a Strat or Tele with HBs - I have an Epi Les Paul and I love the humbuckers- that's why I got a Les. But, the Strats and Teles also have their "signature" sound- and I love that too. Everytime I see a Strat- or especially a Tele - with HBs I just shake my head and sigh :(

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My Strat is an SSS as well. I kept just one Gibson for the humbuckers just in case.... but my love for the single coils came late in life and after years of growing into my own music, so it really is a matter of style and taste. But like many have mentioned I think Gibson= humbucker, Fender= single coil, kinda like Jeep= mountains, Ferrari=race track

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stephenr66 wrote:
My Strat is an SSS as well. I kept just one Gibson for the humbuckers just in case.... but my love for the single coils came late in life and after years of growing into my own music, so it really is a matter of style and taste. But like many have mentioned I think Gibson= humbucker, Fender= single coil, kinda like Jeep= mountains, Ferrari=race track


If the last comment is respectively, does that mean Gibson=Jeep and Fender=Ferrari?


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atolleter wrote:
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My Strat is an SSS as well. I kept just one Gibson for the humbuckers just in case.... but my love for the single coils came late in life and after years of growing into my own music, so it really is a matter of style and taste. But like many have mentioned I think Gibson= humbucker, Fender= single coil, kinda like Jeep= mountains, Ferrari=race track


If the last comment is respectively, does that mean Gibson=Jeep and Fender=Ferrari?


I had a feeling someone would ask and I wouldn't have a good answer... I guess like everything else it would be personal opinion. MIne ... Fender= Ferrari

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Hello Cryingstrat,

So that's what the volume knob is for. :D

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Hello Cryingstrat,

So that's what the volume knob is for. :D

Cheers.


Yup, it's a hum mitigation device.

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When I picked up an electric, after playing acoustic before, I started playing a Strat, and I've never stopped. That's why I never got the sustain cult about Les Pauls because Strats sustain for years compared to acoustic, and you don't worry you'll break the neck. Thanks for the info about what's the big deal about joined necks on the other thread, cryingstrat. Maybe if you come at it from the Gibson side, then the Strat seems strange, but I can't even figure out a Les Paul with all the knobs and the switch up high and whatnot. A Strat's just right. There's another house out there and some of the songs are done with that heavy sound that Strats don't do naturally. I mean ZZ has a Les Paul sound, or you can go with the BoBilly from Gretsch. What Strats do amazingly - especially with the Custom Shop Tx Specials that I've got in my nitro-finished and jumbo fretted Highway - is Claptonesque from Riding With The King clear liquid glass beautiful purity of tone, and SRV-esque from the neck absolutely hollow glass badass tone. The bridge is great clean and I totally agree the neck is where you want to be when you turn up the gain in the preamp. I'll have to buy a Les Paul someday to try to get some appreciation for that side of the world, and the Slash does sound good with the musical Duncans in it, but there's no substitute for a Strat, and make it near-vintage. Noise is just not a problem with the Custom Shop Tx Specials (much less than with the oem Highway One pickups). With the tone knobs at 6, which is a sweet spot, or at 3 another one for high gain, basically there's no noise. On top of that there's hum cancelling in the blend 2 and 4 spots. Keep it pure Strat.

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Personally, I don't understand putting a humbucker in a strat either. It's not a strat anymore. No more great chimey position 2. No more bell like tone from the bridge. If I want a humbucker tone, I'll grab a humbucker guitar. Might as well get a Jackson if you want that HSS setup. Why ruin a strat? But that's just me. If someone wants to do it and loves the results, who am I to say their wrong? It's just not a strat anymore.


Gentlemen,
I must say that after reading several messages on this thread I now feel like a Strat outcast.

As some of you may know, I recently hopped over from the Gibson camp to the Fender camp and I came to this decision based on comfort, tone, versatility and just the sheer beauty of a Strat. My MIM & MIA Strats both came equipped with humbuckers from the Fender production plant.

I felt when I discovered these Strats that it was a god send from heaven because I truly believe that they are “Jack of All Trades” and I have no negative comments to say in regards to tone and versatility that these great Strats provide me with. I will agree that the single coil in the neck position is a sweet spot for leads & on my MIA strat the center pick sings pretty sweet. I respect that most Strat users prefer the SSS setup, but don't alienate us HSS Strat users . Every man or lady has their own preference in tone & setup and I respect that. At the end of day we are all still playing what brings joy to our soul a Fender Strat
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I_Ronin wrote:
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Personally, I don't understand putting a humbucker in a strat either. It's not a strat anymore. No more great chimey position 2. No more bell like tone from the bridge. If I want a humbucker tone, I'll grab a humbucker guitar. Might as well get a Jackson if you want that HSS setup. Why ruin a strat? But that's just me. If someone wants to do it and loves the results, who am I to say their wrong? It's just not a strat anymore.


Gentlemen,
I must say that after reading several messages on this thread I now feel like a Strat outcast.

As some of you may know, I recently hopped over from the Gibson camp to the Fender camp and I came to this decision based on comfort, tone, versatility and just the sheer beauty of a Strat. My MIM & MIA Strats both came equipped with humbuckers from the Fender production plant.

I felt when I discovered these Strats that it was a god send from heaven because I truly believe that they are “Jack of All Trades” and I have no negative comments to say in regards to tone and versatility that these great Strats provide me with. I will agree that the single coil in the neck position is a sweet spot for leads & on my MIA strat the center pick sings pretty sweet. I respect that most Strat users prefer the SSS setup, but don't alienate us HSS Strat users . Every man or lady has their own preference in tone & setup and I respect that. At the end of day we are all still playing what brings joy to our soul a Fender Strat

Yeah, I'm a strat purist but remember...I also said I have no right to say someones wrong for doing it. It's all personal preference. Fender sells a lot of em so I know I'm not the only opinion on the subject. I even tried it myself once upon a time with a mexi-strat. Just not my cuppa tea. No alienation was meant at all. Maybe I was just lookin for another purist cult convert....join us....join us...mu haw haw.. :evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted:

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Yeah, I'm a strat purist but remember...I also said I have no right to say someones wrong for doing it. It's all personal preference. Fender sells a lot of em so I know I'm not the only opinion on the subject. I even tried it myself once upon a time with a mexi-strat. Just not my cuppa tea. No alienation was meant at all. Maybe I was just lookin for another purist cult convert....join us....join us...mu haw haw.. :evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted:[/quote]

LOL!
My apologzies Cryingstrat,
My response was not aimed at you. Just trying to get my two cents in for us HSS Strat users. Reading the thread the initial impression I got was play your Gibson for humbucking tones, I refuse for Fender is my love :lol: I use a Peavy JSX and with the right settings dialed in my Strat had more crunch than my Gibson with a 490 setup and with the single pups in the neck and middle position I had sweet sounding leads...

This is a case of me not paying attention to what I was doing when sending this message out. It was meant as a general response oh great leader of the Fender cult :twisted:

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+2 on the HSS, I dont want to be an outcast either by my strat brothers and sisters :(

but i lower the humbucker untell it sounds like a single coil and it the same volume. I just really like a HSS. I like the modded look. sorry for sinning :D


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To say that a Strat with a humbucker is not a Strat is to say that if you swap your 6 cylinder for a 350 V8 in your Camaro, it is no longer a Camaro. Who cares???? If it says Fender Stratocaster on it, then that is what it is. There is a difference between purist and ignorant. It is ALL ABOUT TONE!! What if you like a humbucker tone, but like the Fender 25.5 scale length? Are you supposed to ditch your favorite guitar because if you screw with it, it is no longer pristine?? That is nonsense. Most of the posts on this site are about pick-up swaps anyway. If you were a true purist, you would leave you guitar stock, the way Fender R&D designed it. We like the Strat because it is so easy to modify. That is one of it's strengths.
Fender put out the HSS style Strat because it was in high demand from consumers. Don't you think that Fender is aware of it's history??? Look at all the reissue models available. Wouldn't it suck if you could only get a SSS Strat? I have several Fender guitars, and love the fact that they all sound DIFFERENT, yet still have the Fender fell and vibe.
I say, if you own it, do what you want with it. Its your guitar, make it into your dream guitar. I can tell you this, when I crank up my Marshall, I love the tone of my Stock HSS Stratocaster!!!!


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To say that a Strat with a humbucker is not a Strat is to say that if you swap your 6 cylinder for a 350 V8 in your Camaro, it is no longer a Camaro. Who cares???? If it says Fender Stratocaster on it, then that is what it is. There is a difference between purist and ignorant. It is ALL ABOUT TONE!! What if you like a humbucker tone, but like the Fender 25.5 scale length? Are you supposed to ditch your favorite guitar because if you screw with it, it is no longer pristine?? That is nonsense. Most of the posts on this site are about pick-up swaps anyway. If you were a true purist, you would leave you guitar stock, the way Fender R&D designed it. We like the Strat because it is so easy to modify. That is one of it's strengths.
Fender put out the HSS style Strat because it was in high demand from consumers. Don't you think that Fender is aware of it's history??? Look at all the reissue models available. Wouldn't it suck if you could only get a SSS Strat? I have several Fender guitars, and love the fact that they all sound DIFFERENT, yet still have the Fender fell and vibe.
I say, if you own it, do what you want with it. Its your guitar, make it into your dream guitar. I can tell you this, when I crank up my Marshall, I love the tone of my Stock HSS Stratocaster!!!!


What the hell are you talking about? Who said anything about ditching your guitar? Who said only purists are right and everyone else is wrong? No one. Get off your high horse. You want a humbucker go for it. You wanna be a purist go for it . You wanna run your strat off two cans and a string go for it.

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Hey cryingstrat, you are the one saying that"it's not a Strat anymore". I guess you know more about Fender Stratocasters than the manufacturer. All I am saying is that the best thing about it is it can be whatever the OWNER OF THE GUITAR WANTS!! Thats all.
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