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Post subject: Pure Vintage Late '59 Stratocaster Pickguard
Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 4:18 pm
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It says "Three-ply mint green/black/mint green configuration with nitrocellulose finish" on the website. Does anyone know what nitrocellulose finish means? As in is this actually made of nitrocellulose of is it some kind of a finish?


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Post subject: Re: Pure Vintage Late '59 Stratocaster Pickguard
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:11 am
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Nitrocellulose finish is a kind of varnish are use to finish a guitar wood not the pickgard .

IMO 1959 pickgard is made with single ply not 3


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Post subject: Re: Pure Vintage Late '59 Stratocaster Pickguard
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:30 am
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stratele52 wrote:
Nitrocellulose finish is a kind of varnish are use to finish a guitar wood not the pickgard .

IMO 1959 pickgard is made with single ply not 3


It depends on which end of the year you're talking.
At the start of the year it was single ply, at the end of it was three ply, and there are examples of rosewood fingerboard necks being used with single ply, and all maple necks with three ply.
Fender's recent '59 reissue had an all maple neck with single ply pickguard, and rosewood fingerboard with three ply pickguard.

I'm going to assume that the comment about nitrocellulose is is just plain wrong.
The originals were made of celluloid, with all the potential for warping, cracking and discolouring that often afflicts genuine Strats from this era.

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Post subject: Re: Pure Vintage Late '59 Stratocaster Pickguard
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:40 am
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Thank's for the answer :D


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Post subject: Re: Pure Vintage Late '59 Stratocaster Pickguard
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:54 am
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Also, a 59 3 ply pick guard has 10 screw holes. If it has 11 it is not a 59.

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Post subject: Re: Pure Vintage Late '59 Stratocaster Pickguard
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:05 am
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I guess what I'm really looking for is what material the pickguard made of. The Custom Shop uses nitrocelulose for some of the Relic guitars. Maybe some one from Fender can answer.

Thanks for all the replys!


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Post subject: Re: Pure Vintage Late '59 Stratocaster Pickguard
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:10 am
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bigduke6 wrote:
I guess what I'm really looking for is what material the pickguard made of. The Custom Shop uses nitrocelulose for some of the Relic guitars. Maybe some one from Fender can answer.

Thanks for all the replys!



:lol: :lol: You are looking at a guitar with cellulose finish and a 3 ply pickgard .

Not for a cellulose finish pickgard !!!!! :lol: :lol:


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Post subject: Re: Pure Vintage Late '59 Stratocaster Pickguard
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:22 am
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No, I'm looking for a celulose pickguard like on the Custom Shop Relics.

Thanks though.


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Post subject: Re: Pure Vintage Late '59 Stratocaster Pickguard
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:31 am
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Pickguards, especially but not exclusively tortoiseshell

And a quote (I bolded what's most relevant):
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Faux tortoiseshell pickguards made their first appearance in 1959, when most (but not all) Fender instruments were revised with multi-ply pickguards made of celluloid—the patented name for cellulose nitrate, the world’s first semi-synthetic plastic, which had been around for almost a century by then. Telecasters and Stratocasters received three-ply white-black-white “nitro” pickguards that year; the Precision Bass, Electric Mandolin and Jazzmaster received four-ply pickguards with a faux tortoiseshell layer atop the white, black and white layers.


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Post subject: Re: Pure Vintage Late '59 Stratocaster Pickguard
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:32 am
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bigduke6 wrote:
No, I'm looking for a celulose pickguard like on the Custom Shop Relics.

Thanks though.



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Post subject: Re: Pure Vintage Late '59 Stratocaster Pickguard
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:44 am
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I've been thinking on about these pickguards, and finishing them with nitrocellulose would give a finish that would oxidise over time with exposure to the air.
Celluloid was made using nitrocellulose (with a couple of other ingredients), so possibly this pickguard is finished with nitrocellulose so that it can visually emulate the ageing process of celluloid.
It would make sense - celluloid is unstable stuff.

I think we need a comment from the inside - anybody seen Rob Shwarz lately?

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Post subject: Re: Pure Vintage Late '59 Stratocaster Pickguard
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:19 pm
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OK, I emailed Fender customer relations and they tell me the pickguards are made of nitro celluloid and will soon be changing the description on their website. I thank you all for your help.

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Post subject: Re: Pure Vintage Late '59 Stratocaster Pickguard
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:39 am
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bigduke6 wrote:
OK, I emailed Fender customer relations and they tell me the pickguards are made of nitro celluloid and will soon be changing the description on their website. I thank you all for your help.

Duke



Yes, nitro celluloid not nitro cellulose . :)


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Post subject: Re: Pure Vintage Late '59 Stratocaster Pickguard
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:09 am
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Nope. Celluloid or cellulose nitrate or Viscoloid. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Post subject: Re: Pure Vintage Late '59 Stratocaster Pickguard
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:45 am
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[quote="jmattis"]Pickguards, especially but not exclusively tortoiseshell

Thanks for the article, most enlightening
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