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Post subject: Another one: Help me plz.
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:54 pm
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Hi there, I really need to know where this pieces came from, I bought it and the seller said it was a american standard, since I'm a noob I just belived in him, I uploaded the pics to a drop box fila, so it get easier to see.

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https://www.dropbox.com/sh/nx0r54h2k8wx3vs/AABxNpuvWzoCSekyoE_U2HWha?dl=0


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Post subject: Re: Another one: Help me plz.
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:15 pm
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I'm not a super trained eye but it looks good. The knobs seem to be quite a bit more aged than the pup covers, a minor detail.


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Post subject: Re: Another one: Help me plz.
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:18 pm
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Is it normal to have a year 2000 body and a 2008 neck?

Are both really MiA ?


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Post subject: Re: Another one: Help me plz.
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:45 pm
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The neck definitely looks to be made in USA. The body appears to be a Mexican which has been converted from the 6-screw bridge to a 2-screw. The ceramic magnet pups are another clue to the body's Mexican origin.

A partscaster, but still seems like a fine guitar.

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Post subject: Re: Another one: Help me plz.
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:33 pm
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Sheiffer wrote:
Is it normal to have a year 2000 body and a 2008 neck?

Are both really MiA ?


Thank you.

No it is not normal and as mentioned that body does not look USA.
Definitely a partscaster not that I have much against that so long as it is sold as such. :D


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Post subject: Re: Another one: Help me plz.
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:20 am
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+1 for Shimmilou ,Pickups are céramic, so a Standart Mex, the neck is US but the body is Mex. The neck plate is no good.
The wiring is a real désatre, not CTS pots

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Post subject: Re: Another one: Help me plz.
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:31 pm
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The pick ups and the six screw holes for the old style trem are a dead give away, partscaster.

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Post subject: Re: Another one: Help me plz.
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:40 am
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Is there any way to me to discover from where the body came?


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Post subject: Re: Another one: Help me plz.
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:36 am
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I call the body a MIM, based on the three round holes on the lower horn side - and someone has modded the tremolo, refinished the body etc.
Just an opinion, though.

If you don't get the answers you want on the forums, you just have to track it via the seller, or stand down and accept what you got.

BTW: Those cracks in pic11; trem post and from trem hole on - are they in the finish only?
BTW2: Nice color combination, maple to (Sea Foam?) green to pearloid.


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Post subject: Re: Another one: Help me plz.
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:39 am
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jmattis wrote:
I call the body a MIM, based on the three round holes on the lower horn side - and someone has modded the tremolo, refinished the body etc.
Just an opinion, though.

If you don't get the answers you want on the forums, you just have to track it via the seller, or stand down and accept what you got.

BTW: Those cracks in pic11; trem post and from trem hole on - are they in the finish only?
BTW2: Nice color combination, maple to (Sea Foam?) green to pearloid.


Thank you for the help, the seller is a little dumb, dunno nothing about nothing, he sold me it like an american standard... Thats why I'm so pissed, but the guitar plays and sounds amazing, that's why I need to know where this body came from, at least he is a truly fender right? I was looking for the 2000/2001 catalog to see which green guitars are sold in that period but found nothing, any one have it?

The crack is superficial, it was made when the "super genius" other guy changed the tremolo, as far as I can see...

I really need the 2000/2001 catalog, that will save my life...


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Post subject: Re: Another one: Help me plz.
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:40 am
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IMHO, the catalog won't be much help - like others above, I believe that's a Partscaster, and didn't leave the factory as it is now.
My guess, again, is that both the neck and body are legit Fender, the neck a US and the body a MIM.
Contacting consumerrelations@fender.com with the serial number may give some info.

But at this point you should consider if you will ever (even if the seller agrees to a price cut) be totally satisfied with the guitar. If not, is it possible to cancel the deal? If not, maybe cut your losses and resell the guitar as it is, a Partscaster.
It's just not worth it, if you feel dissatisfied every time you pick it up to play, ya know...

But (continuously IMHO :wink: ), that's a nice guitar - if the sound and playability are OK, and you didn't go waaaay over the top on price, why not give it a chance?


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Post subject: Re: Another one: Help me plz.
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:38 pm
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jmattis wrote:
IMHO, the catalog won't be much help - like others above, I believe that's a Partscaster, and didn't leave the factory as it is now.
My guess, again, is that both the neck and body are legit Fender, the neck a US and the body a MIM.
Contacting consumerrelations@fender.com with the serial number may give some info.

But at this point you should consider if you will ever (even if the seller agrees to a price cut) be totally satisfied with the guitar. If not, is it possible to cancel the deal? If not, maybe cut your losses and resell the guitar as it is, a Partscaster.
It's just not worth it, if you feel dissatisfied every time you pick it up to play, ya know...

But (continuously IMHO :wink: ), that's a nice guitar - if the sound and playability are OK, and you didn't go waaaay over the top on price, why not give it a chance?



My toughs are: He got a 2000 strato, then the neck had some problem and he bought a new neck, in my country is realy hard to buy parts, thats why I thin the 2000 catalog will help, I could see witch surf green guitars were sold and figure where the body came from...

I'll give the guitar a chance, since I can't give it back, the sound is amazing anyway, the body is pretty solid and resonates wonderfully, sometimes I get some reverberation from the spring on the tremolo, the playing unplugged...


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Post subject: Re: Another one: Help me plz.
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:07 am
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Plz, help me to idendify the body, its older than the neck, so is there a chance that the old neck broke and the owner bought a new one, I checked the fender with te serial and got it:


Here’s what I found on that Serial:

Serial: Manufacture Date:
Z8160636 09/11/2008

Model Name: American Standard Stratocaster®
Model Number: 011-0400-(Color #) and 011-0402-(Color #)
Series: American Standard Series
Body: Alder on:
(700) 3-Color Sunburst,
(705) Olympic White,
(706) Black,
(712) Candy Cola,
(755) Blizzard Pearl,
(769) Charcoal Frost Metallic,
Ash on:
(747)** Sienna Sunburst, **add $100.00 for Special Wood Requirements,
Neck: Maple, Modern “C” Shape,
(Gloss Headstock Face with Satin Urethane Finish on Back of Neck)
Fingerboard: Rosewood (P/N 011-0400) or Maple (P/N 011-0402), 9.5” Radius (241 mm)
Frets: 22 Medium Jumbo Frets
Scale Length: 25.5” (648 mm)
Width @ Nut: 1.685” (42.8 mm)
Hardware: Chrome
Machine Heads: Fender® Deluxe Staggered Cast/Sealed Tuning Machines
Bridge: 2-Point Synchronized Tremolo with New American Standard Bent Steel Saddles
Pickguard: 3-Ply Parchment
Pickups: 3 American Strat® Single-Coil Pickups
Pickup Switching: 5-Position Blade:
Position 1. Bridge Pickup
Position 2. Bridge and Middle Pickup
Position 3. Middle Pickup
Position 4. Middle and Neck Pickup
Position 5. Neck Pickup
Controls: Master Volume,
Tone 1. (Neck Pickup),
Tone 2. Delta ToneTM
(“Delta Tone” system includes high output bridge pickup and special No-Load tone control for Middle and Bridge Pickups)
Colors: (700) 3-Color Sunburst,
(705) Olympic White,
(706) Black,
(712) Candy Cola,
(747)** Sienna Sunburst, (Ash Body),**add $100.00 for Special Wood Requirements,
(755) Blizzard Pearl,
(769) Charcoal Frost Metallic,
(Urethane Finish)
Strings: Fender® Standard Tension™ Bullet ST3250L, Nickel Plated Steel, (.009 to .042), p/n 073-3250-203
Other Features: New Bent Steel Saddles with Elongated String Slots,
Copper Infused High Mass 100% Metal Bridge Block,
Thinner Undercoat Finish for Improved Body Resonance,
Tinted Neck,
Maple Fingerboard Neck: Satin Finish on Back, Gloss Finish on Front;
Rosewood Fingerboard Neck: Satin Finish on Back, Gloss Finish on Headstock Front with Buffed Fingerboard,
4-Bolt Neck Attachment with Micro-Tilt™ Adjustment,
Bi-Flex Truss Rod System,
Parchment Knobs and Pickup Covers,
Rolled Fretboard Edges,
Staggered Tuning Keys,
H/S/H Pickup Routing,
New Molded Fender/SKB Case with TSA Locks, Glass Reinforced Nylon Trigger Latches, and Form Fitted Plush Interior
Source: U.S.
Accessories: Fender/SKB® Case, Cable, Strap, Polishing Cloth
U.S. MSRP: $1,299.99, $1,399.99, **(747)
INTRODUCED: 1/2008
DISCONTINUED: 3/2012
DISCONTINUED COLORS:
WRENCH SIZES: Truss Rod/Tilt Adjustment Wrench, (1/8” Hex), P/N 0023811000,
Saddle Height Adjustment Wrench, (.050” Hex), P/N 0018531000
COMMENTS: Uses Case P/N 0996101506,
MSRP Price drop from $1,590.00 to $1,299.99 in 1/2010, No upcharge for Sunburst
NOTICE: Product Prices, Features, Specifications and Availability Are Subject To Change Without Notice

Hope this helps!

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So who in the hell world will take a neck from american standard and put it in a mexican body? I really need to identify the body...

Thank you


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