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Post subject: Fender AVRI 62 vs new pure vintage '59 & '65
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:03 pm
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Hey everyone, I'm wondering how the old AVRI 62 stratocasters compare to the new pure vintage '59 or 65' strats.

I've read a lot of good things on forum about the new pure vintage series. Everyone says the pickups are the best fender has put out. A lot of people also points out that the frets are amazing, and even with the vintage radius bends are super easy.
I got to play a 65 strat at guitar center, it think it was the best guitar I've ever played. The pickups sounded amazing; it was really easy to play, bends on the higher frets didn't choke out. The finish felt great, and it was really loud unplugged.

The 62 strats are discontinued so i might not get to play one before i buy. How do they compare to the new ones? in terms of playability? sound?

Im planning to buy used; from what I've seen the price difference is only a few hundred dollars between the two. I'd really appreciate opinions from people who've owned/played both!

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Post subject: Re: Fender AVRI 62 vs new pure vintage '59 & '65
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:28 pm
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The AVS guitars are visually more accurate than the discontinued AVRI series in that the string tree is correctly located on the headstock and the bridge saddles are stamped "FENDER - PAT. PEND" instead of merely "FENDER - FENDER". Both lines of instruments play well and sound good but I give the nod to the AVS Strats simply for their improved historical authenticity.

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:37 pm
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IMO they're both awesome. I would be happy to own either. :wink:


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Post subject: Re: Fender AVRI 62 vs new pure vintage '59 & '65
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:53 pm
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Good to know guys! thanks for the replies.
I don't really care too much about historical accuracy, i just want a solid guitar. You mention the nut being correct, but actually one of the only negative things I've read about the new reissues is that the e string slips a lot :P
…I guess some things have improved from the vintage era 8)

Really my main concern is That the 62 strat plays as well as the 59 or 65 strats. With the vintage radius and frets i know it can cause a few issues, like choking bends. I liked the 65 strat, I'm hoping a 62 would be just as good.


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Post subject: Re: Fender AVRI 62 vs new pure vintage '59 & '65
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:56 pm
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FunkyMonk13 wrote:
With the vintage radius and frets i know it can cause a few issues, like choking bends. I liked the 65 strat, I'm hoping a 62 would be just as good.


I don't ever recall Jimi having a problem with "choking bends".

Ever.

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Post subject: Re: Fender AVRI 62 vs new pure vintage '59 & '65
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:26 pm
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FunkyMonk13 wrote:
Really my main concern is That the 62 strat plays as well as the 59 or 65 strats.

There is no reason to assert the new '59 and '65 models as being "better playing" than the '62 RI.


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Post subject: Re: Fender AVRI 62 vs new pure vintage '59 & '65
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:34 pm
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Toronado wrote:
There is no reason to assert the new '59 and '65 models as being "better playing" than the '62 RI.


+1

It all depends upon how skillfully the instrument is set up.

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Post subject: Re: Fender AVRI 62 vs new pure vintage '59 & '65
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:21 pm
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I have two '62 AVRIs and both are a pleasure to play. Like Jimi, I do not have problems with choking bends. I highly recommend picking one up if you get a chance.


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Post subject: Re: Fender AVRI 62 vs new pure vintage '59 & '65
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:01 am
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The most significant difference I could detect between the current AVS line-up and the venerable AVRI guitars was in the pickups. The AVRI's both use the "generically-voiced" 57/62 set while the AVS models each have their own specific pickups which seem a bit more animated and organic. Both series are excellent guitars though -- I suspect that neither will disappoint.

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Post subject: Re: Fender AVRI 62 vs new pure vintage '59 & '65
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 5:57 am
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I always wanted an AVRI '62. Was bummed that they're discontinued. Does anyone happen to know all of the spec differences between the discontinued AVRI '62 and the new AVS '65? I presume there are some differences between the '62 and '65 models they're copying, and some differences are between the former AVRI line and th new AVS line. If that makes any sense?


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Post subject: Re: Fender AVRI 62 vs new pure vintage '59 & '65
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:34 am
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Toronado wrote:
FunkyMonk13 wrote:
Really my main concern is That the 62 strat plays as well as the 59 or 65 strats.

There is no reason to assert the new '59 and '65 models as being "better playing" than the '62 RI.


Well from what I've read the new models have a pretty high standard of quality control. When i played a 65, i really did think it was probably the best guitar I've ever played.
Ive never played a 62 so i didnt know if that was the case too.

As far as choking bends i think the set up as well as the quality of the instrument can cause problems. Ive played the road worn strats, and bends definitively choked out in the higher frets. The frets felt gritty, might have been uneven and maybe not set up well. This didn't happen with the 65 strat. Of course the road worns are a lot cheaper so its not surprising.


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Post subject: Re: Fender AVRI 62 vs new pure vintage '59 & '65
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:07 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
The most significant difference I could detect between the current AVS line-up and the venerable AVRI guitars was in the pickups. The AVRI's both use the "generically-voiced" 57/62 set while the AVS models each have their own specific pickups which seem a bit more animated and organic. Both series are excellent guitars though -- I suspect that neither will disappoint.

Arjay


I just put a set of the Pure Vintage 65s in a hardtail strat I built, and they are some of the best pickups I've had the pleasure of playing. Very clear, articulate, full of spank and quack.


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Post subject: Re: Fender AVRI 62 vs new pure vintage '59 & '65
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:13 pm
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Yogi wrote:
I just put a set of the Pure Vintage 65s in a hardtail strat I built, and they are some of the best pickups I've had the pleasure of playing. Very clear, articulate, full of spank and quack.


Got pics, Yogi?

If so, start up a new thread -- I'd love to see it.

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Post subject: Re: Fender AVRI 62 vs new pure vintage '59 & '65
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:40 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
Yogi wrote:
I just put a set of the Pure Vintage 65s in a hardtail strat I built, and they are some of the best pickups I've had the pleasure of playing. Very clear, articulate, full of spank and quack.


Got pics, Yogi?

If so, start up a new thread -- I'd love to see it.

Arjay



Next to my 65 custom shop
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and next to my 1972 strat
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Post subject: Re: Fender AVRI 62 vs new pure vintage '59 & '65
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:43 am
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IMHO, having owned both, a 80's surf green AV62', also a 90's AV57', and now a new AVS56', the new AV series is in a different class altogether, as stated here the new pickups sound really great, the new thin lacquer finishes give the feel and tone much closer to vintage.The fret work is impeccable, the neck shapes are right on to the originals too, when at the store I played a new AVS54', 59' and 65', all were great. Having owned vintage strats, masterbuilt, and many custom shop time machine strats, these new AV's are right up there with the best of them(better than, in most cases), just have to find the right one for you, the second I strummed my 56' I knew I had to have it.(As a side note I'm also so glad Fender did not use the horrible orange tint on these necks, and sprays them clear).Thats my opinion having owned both, hope it helps.


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