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Post subject: Jimi Biopic playing Strat-like object
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:40 pm
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I caught the trailer for the new Jimi Hendrix biopic. It looks pretty good. Andre' 3000, in my mind, really captures the vibe and feel of Jimi. BUT the one thing that made me flinch was when they show Andre' 3000 on stage, as Jimi, playing white Strat shaped guitar with a very sort-of-Stratocaster headstock. No Fender logo. No rounded ball end. There has been another Jimi biopic, but it was terible. Watching this trailer, I was all in. But when this non-Fender Strat thing hit the screen, the spell was broken. I'm sure there is a financial reason for all of this (the same reason the Ford logo always gets covered in most movies and commurcials), but come on.

This same sort of thing happened when I watched Gary Busey play Buddy Holly. Durring the movie you see Buddy Holly (Busey) playing a Strat with a large Strat headstock. I know that non-guitarist didn't notice, but I did. I'll give Busey credit for playing his own parts.

Am I being too picky? Maybe, but I don't know.

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Post subject: Re: Jimi Biopic playing Strat-like object
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:31 pm
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Good eye !! :wink:

But if you're gonna expect the Property Master to be 100% historically accurate, you're only in for disappointment from the outset.

These 20-30 something movie employees are from the same group who could accurately identify which ocean California, France and China were on a mere 20% of the time. :shock: :shock:

I can't tell you how many films I've seen where a '56 Ford rolls through a scene set in 1952, or an M64 Patton Tank attacking a WWII German Pillbox. :roll:

And these were merely the gross errors... it says nothing of the errors in costuming, background music, Brand logos, etc.

I've learned to turn it off in order to enjoy an otherwise OK film, but admit it's not always easy.

Hopefully, this offering will be better than the one starring Wood Harris, but I doubt that 'All is by My Side' will make any significant impact since they're unable to use any of Hendrix's actual music in the film except "All Along the Watchtower" and Hendrix's rendition of "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band".

There is an actual upcoming, as yet untitled, Biopic in the works authorized by Experience Hendrix LLC (Janie Hendrix and other heirs) where Jimi's music will be highlighted. That is likely the one to see.

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Post subject: Re: Jimi Biopic playing Strat-like object
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:40 pm
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This same sort of thing happened when I watched Gary Busey play Buddy Holly. Durring the movie you see Buddy Holly (Busey) playing a Strat with a large Strat headstock. I know that non-guitarist didn't notice, but I did. I'll give Busey credit for playing his own parts.


If you slow-roll the closing credits to TBHS you'll learn that the Fender Musical Instrument Corporation provided technical support for the film.

Got an issue?

Blame Fender.

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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:43 pm
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I don't think it is too picky. It would bug any strat/hendrix fan which might be the only people who even notice. I would think there must be a reason more then just they didn't know as who would do a biopic on such an iconic guitar player and not even research what he played. It would not have been very difficult for them to get a strat reissue for accuracy. So there is something more to it. I watched the trailer and notice he also plays a flying V and I am pretty sure that one says Gibson on the headstock and looks correct.....hmmm..

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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:57 pm
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It would not have been very difficult for them to get a strat reissue for accuracy.


+1

Even Michael Paré played a period-correct early '60s Strat with a brownface Fender Pro Amp in "Eddie & The Cruisers". When it comes to musical-themed biopics, I'm as much a stickler for details as I am when watching a military-themed film and the uniforms or the weapons or the dialogue aren't authentic.

It's all in the details......get it right or just stay on the bus with the waterboy.

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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:58 pm
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I watched a trailer for that new Jimi film. I noticed that the music wasn't exactly Hendrix tunes, but was in the style. How good can this be without actual Hendrix tunes?

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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:05 pm
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orvilleowner wrote:
I watched a trailer for that new Jimi film. I noticed that the music wasn't exactly Hendrix tunes, but was in the style. How good can this be without actual Hendrix tunes?


EXACTLY !!

Janie Hendrix & Experience Hendrix LLC (the Holding Co. for Jimi's Estate) wouldn't authorize use of his music.

They were able to secure rights to "All Along the Watchtower" from Bob Dylan and "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" from Sir Paul, but that's about it.

Seems silly to even attempt making a film w/o his music.

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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:06 pm
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orvilleowner wrote:
I watched a trailer for that new Jimi film. I noticed that the music wasn't exactly Hendrix tunes, but was in the style. How good can this be without actual Hendrix tunes?

They're planning on using songs that Hendrix covered before releasing his first album. The film will end at his performance at Monterrey.

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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:09 pm
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They could've used "Hey Joe", "Like A Rolling Stone", and "Wild Thing"......

That opportunistic T*N*U*C doesn't own the rights to those songs.

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Post subject: Re: Jimi Biopic playing Strat-like object
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:10 pm
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Even less picky than guitars used, Hendrix' girlfriend of 3 years, who was portrayed in the movie said it was 100% fiction from start to finish. Not only did they refuse to consult her, they got their lawyers onto her to stop her raising any issues with the script.

WE know all biopics dramatise and fictionalise events and timelines, but how far do you go with that before it becomes pointless? So, a complete fiction with no Hendrix music allowed, and what do you have left?

For a later generation of Hendrix fans, this provides no reliable insight into the man.


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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:11 pm
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Drubbing wrote:
So, complete fiction with no Hendrix music allowed to be used, and what do you have left?


Roughly the celluloid equivalent of what my cats leave in their litterbox.

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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:18 pm
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orvilleowner wrote:
I watched a trailer for that new Jimi film. I noticed that the music wasn't exactly Hendrix tunes, but was in the style. How good can this be without actual Hendrix tunes?


Well I found out why they are not using Jimi's music...quote... "Don't look for any songs from his discography, however, either here or in the final film project. Hendrix's family, who are looking to make their own movie, isn't allowing his music to be used."

As far as the bogus "Strat" we may never know the reason but I imagine guitar blogs are all going to be on about it once they find out as they were when a low budget showtime bio had him on a Squire. That is not even as worse then what this high budget movie is using. You would think Fender would have wanted the advertising...always something with Fender :mrgreen:

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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:22 pm
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Drubbing wrote:
Even less picky than guitars used, Hendrix' girlfriend of 3 years, who was portrayed in the movie said it was 100% fiction from start to finish. Not only did they refuse to consult her, they got their lawyers onto her to stop her raising any issues with the script.

WE know all biopics dramatise and fictionalise events and timelines, but how far do you go with that before it becomes pointless? So, a complete fiction with no Hendrix music allowed, and what do you have left?

For a later generation of Hendrix fans, this provides no reliable insight into the man.


It seems this "biopic" is more about glorifying his days in London then anything else and will be mostly embellishment.. It could still be a decent movie but that fake strat is going to eat at me every time I see it more then the fake story lol.

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Drubbing wrote:
So, complete fiction with no Hendrix music allowed to be used, and what do you have left?


Roughly the celluloid equivalent of what my cats leave in their litterbox.

:lol:

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I bet the producers of PT 109 send Thank You cards to the producers of this film... just like Jimmy Carter does to obama. :wink:

Q: How does a 45 knot PT Boat on Combat Station get cut it in half by a 25 knot Destroyer ...?? :shock: :shock:

A: By violating the 2nd General Order: To walk my post in a military manner, keeping always on the alert, and observing everything that takes place within sight or hearing... Or in civilian parlance... Sleeping on Deck. :roll: :roll: :roll:

No wonder old Joe Kennedy was unsuccessful in getting Jack the Navy Cross for that one... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:33 pm
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No wonder old Joe Kennedy was unsuccessful in getting Jack the Navy Cross for that one... :lol: :lol: :lol:


It was only Joe's considerable political suction that prevented the Navy from court-martialing JFK's lameass. I think it's noteworthy that Kennedy received NO commendation for his efforts at collecting the surviving crew members and getting them to safety after he lost his boat. He left the Navy with precisely two decorations: The Purple Heart (for the wounds caused by his own command malfeasance) and the Navy's Combat Action Ribbon (everyone serving on so much as a goddamm rowboat in the SWPA during WWII got one). No MOH, no Navy Cross, no Silver or Bronze Star, no nothing.

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