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Post subject: Re: Ebay and the vintage guitar
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:56 pm
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Reverb.com is the way to go. The ad runs until you sell or forever, which ever comes first plus they charge 3.5% to Ebays 9% and yes they use paypal.


Thanks! I just placed it on Reverb about a day ago.


That's a very clean looking strat for its age. I trust it will find a good home.
The middle of summer isn't a good season for selling, so it might take a while, but I think the price is right. Let us know how it went!


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Post subject: Re: Ebay and the vintage guitar
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:07 pm
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paris wrote:
Minnesotastrats wrote:
Reverb.com is the way to go. The ad runs until you sell or forever, which ever comes first plus they charge 3.5% to Ebays 9% and yes they use paypal.


Thanks! I just placed it on Reverb about a day ago.



Good move.
Ebay charge is 10% + 3% paypal =13%
This is ridiculously high, so no more ebay for me for selling things. :mrgreen:


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Post subject: Re: Ebay and the vintage guitar
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:21 pm
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paris wrote:
Minnesotastrats wrote:
Reverb.com is the way to go. The ad runs until you sell or forever, which ever comes first plus they charge 3.5% to Ebays 9% and yes they use paypal.


Thanks! I just placed it on Reverb about a day ago.


That's a very clean looking strat for its age. I trust it will find a good home.
The middle of summer isn't a good season for selling, so it might take a while, but I think the price is right. Let us know how it went!


Thanks!


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Post subject: Re: Ebay and the vintage guitar
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:55 am
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When selling on eBay (I started selling there in 1998 - 1500+ all-positive feedback), you have to remember that it is an AUCTION forum if you are looking to get bids. It is very hard (and scary) to do, but a lot of sellers start their bidding WAY BELOW the price they hope to get. The idea is to entice bidders to start bidding and run each other up.

I've seen sellers start $1,000 guitars at 1 cent! I'll concede that would scare the crap out of me, but they always seem to attract enough serious bidders to get the final sale value of that guitar right up where it should be. To get attention on your auction, I don't think you should ever start your listing at more than 50% of what you want to get.

eBay is not for the faint of heart when it comes to trying to sell high ticket items.

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Post subject: Re: Ebay and the vintage guitar
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:05 am
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When selling on eBay (I started selling there in 1998 - 1500+ all-positive feedback), you have to remember that it is an AUCTION forum if you are looking to get bids. It is very hard (and scary) to do, but a lot of sellers start their bidding WAY BELOW the price they hope to get. The idea is to entice bidders to start bidding and run each other up.

I've seen sellers start $1,000 guitars at 1 cent! I'll concede that would scare the crap out of me, but they always seem to attract enough serious bidders to get the final sale value of that guitar right up where it should be. To get attention on your auction, I don't think you should ever start your listing at more than 50% of what you want to get.

eBay is not for the faint of heart when it comes to trying to sell high ticket items.


The reserve (if you choose to set one) is intended to prevent you from losing your proverbial shirt, Dennis.

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Post subject: Re: Ebay and the vintage guitar
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:09 am
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Thanks for everyone's insites. I changed the auction to a "Buy Now" with "Best Offer." I had a few low ball offers, but eventually I received one reasonable offer of $1,400. It's a dealer price, but I'm not a dealer. Since I first purchased the guitar at a very love price, I made some money on the deal.


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Post subject: Re: Ebay and the vintage guitar
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:13 am
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If you feel a received best offer is on the low side, you can always tender a counter-offer if you feel the potential buyer will bite.

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Post subject: Re: Ebay and the vintage guitar
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:19 am
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If you feel a received best offer is on the low side, you can always tender a counter-offer if you feel the potential buyer will bite.

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I sent two counter offers. He bit for the 3rd. Actually, I'm very happy for the buyer. I purchased the guitar to sell it. I was able to sell some other guitars and buy the one I wanted.

Also, through correspondence with the buyer (after the sale) I learned that someone had stollen his other '70s are Strat and wanted another one. Vintage Fenders (50s - '71) are priced out the range for most people to afford. Late '70s Strats are the last group of vintage Fender Strats the common person can afford without breaking the bank. According to my price guide, the market value is down, but '70s era Strats are gaining value. I'm glad that I could help someone.


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Post subject: Re: Ebay and the vintage guitar
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:40 am
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According to my price guide, the market value is down, but '70s era Strats are gaining value.


+1

Market prices for mid/late '70s-era Strats have been creeping upward, as have those for silverface Fender amps.

Get 'em while you can.

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Post subject: Re: Ebay and the vintage guitar
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:01 pm
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paris wrote:
but '70s era Strats are gaining value. I'm glad that I could help someone.


That is the truth. I was getting an itch for another 70s and have been piecing together a 73. What I paid for the body and neck only a few years ago is about half of what they are going for now. The issue is the electronics and pups. They have not really gone up in price over the past few years since those parts already have been sky high for many years.

At this point I may just put it together with CTS pots and switch, hand wound 69 pups and just play the darn thing already. I did manage to get a great deal on a vintage correct bridge but I purchased the bridge and saddles separately since I got a better deal that way then purchasing a complete assembled bridge. As far as a pickguard and knobs they are also asking a mint for original 70s parts so I figure a little tinted nitro and some time in the dryer with a bunch of gravel ought to give later model replacements just the right "patina" :mrgreen:

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Post subject: Re: Ebay and the vintage guitar
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:51 am
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but '70s era Strats are gaining value. I'm glad that I could help someone.


That is the truth. I was getting an itch for another 70s and have been piecing together a 73. What I paid for the body and neck only a few years ago is about half of what they are going for now. The issue is the electronics and pups. They have not really gone up in price over the past few years since those parts already have been sky high for many years.

At this point I may just put it together with CTS pots and switch, hand wound 69 pups and just play the darn thing already. I did manage to get a great deal on a vintage correct bridge but I purchased the bridge and saddles separately since I got a better deal that way then purchasing a complete assembled bridge. As far as a pickguard and knobs they are also asking a mint for original 70s parts so I figure a little tinted nitro and some time in the dryer with a bunch of gravel ought to give later model replacements just the right "patina" :mrgreen:


I find that I don't care it pots and switches are replaced. These things wear out and eventually need to be replaced. I view them no differently as frets and the nut.

For my '75 Strat, the pickguard, 1 tone pot, and knob, and the nut are aftermarket. At some point in the future, I will replace the brass nut with bone and replace the frets.


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Post subject: Re: Ebay and the vintage guitar
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:54 pm
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At some point in the future, I will replace the brass nut with bone and replace the frets.


Then it'll be like you have a brand new guitar (better if the luthier really knows what he is doing).

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 2:40 pm
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At some point in the future, I will replace the brass nut with bone and replace the frets.


Then it'll be like you have a brand new guitar (better if the luthier really knows what he is doing).


+1!

A brand-new guitar that's nearly forty years old.

It doesn't get much better than that!

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Post subject: Re: Ebay and the vintage guitar
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:51 pm
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paris wrote:
ebaysux wrote:
paris wrote:
but '70s era Strats are gaining value. I'm glad that I could help someone.


That is the truth. I was getting an itch for another 70s and have been piecing together a 73. What I paid for the body and neck only a few years ago is about half of what they are going for now. The issue is the electronics and pups. They have not really gone up in price over the past few years since those parts already have been sky high for many years.

At this point I may just put it together with CTS pots and switch, hand wound 69 pups and just play the darn thing already. I did manage to get a great deal on a vintage correct bridge but I purchased the bridge and saddles separately since I got a better deal that way then purchasing a complete assembled bridge. As far as a pickguard and knobs they are also asking a mint for original 70s parts so I figure a little tinted nitro and some time in the dryer with a bunch of gravel ought to give later model replacements just the right "patina" :mrgreen:


I find that I don't care it pots and switches are replaced. These things wear out and eventually need to be replaced. I view them no differently as frets and the nut.

For my '75 Strat, the pickguard, 1 tone pot, and knob, and the nut are aftermarket. At some point in the future, I will replace the brass nut with bone and replace the frets.


Yes I am fine for good replacement pots and switch in my keepers but when you go to sell it having the correct date coded pots and correct switch add a substantial value which is why you will notice all the high priced ones that actually sell have pictures of the dated pots. As far as frets and the nut I am not so sure original ones would really add much value unless it was mint condition and then if the rest of the guitar was the same and original that is when they get those insane prices for the collectors. Of course if the guitar was actually played since the 70s it most likely has been though a few fret jobs and nuts but if the replacements look correct and done right won't really hurt the value for a player.

The neck I got for my 73 is the real deal but the last owner did a fret job and was never used so the frets are mint. He did also refin the board with poly (which is factory correct but looks too new) which he should have left alone but I can do something to get the patina back and play the heck out of it (and a little sanding lol).
However he was smart and did not touch the headstock so it has the original logo and yellowed nitro with natural checking....I love that look on the 70s.

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Post subject: Re: Ebay and the vintage guitar
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 4:30 am
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paris wrote:
At some point in the future, I will replace the brass nut with bone and replace the frets.


Then it'll be like you have a brand new guitar (better if the luthier really knows what he is doing).


I always use a guy named Phil Jacoby, out of Baltimore. He's been my luthier for about 15 years. He does beautiful work making bone nuts.


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