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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:23 am
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i knew a kid with the same problem. the thing is that he wanted to solo and play lead guitar but didnt have any of the right music where he could steal licks from. to really learn something try listening to some of this stuff and learn your scales.

b.b. king live at the regal
cream disreali gears
derek and the dominoes layla album
stevie ray vaughan's in step and couldnt stand the weather
hendrix had great blues stuff- red house is a great example BUT YOU CAN LEARN EVERYTHING FROM HENDRIX!
Buddy Guy
Muddy Waters
Freddie King
Albert King too..

those are some good ones to start with

the blues is usually the best place to start when youre learning how to play lead guitar. TRUST ME.


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dna9656 wrote:
If you can read music your probably way ahead of most here; I sure can't and TAB notation is very technial as well.
SCALES , SCALES, SCALES!!!
Learn scales; you'll start to see where the chords are "inside" the scales. Chords are a group of notes that sound pleasing (hopefully) together; those notes are part of a scale; the mastery of scales in probably a "JOURNEY" in your playing more than an "END" meaning you'll never stop learning what notes can be used when; having a good knowledge of that is what distingushes some from others.
I know this but still stuggle with learning scales from a combination of desire to learn, laziness, and the time too do it.
It's tough having the "whys" about why I don't play as well as I wished and not the determination and time to do it.
scales helped me tons when learning leads they are the root of lead parts

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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:43 pm
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You know, I'd like to be able to say I'm solid on rhythm. I still work on it and I'm not happy with my fluidity of chord changes in all forms or transitioning from forms. Also, I continue to learn and improve on lead. So, from one student to another, imho to learn lead in blues and blues-rock, play the great blues guitar players - BB King, Duane Allman, a little Zeppellin where the songs are less studio, and of course Eric Clapton. They are the best and the rest will never be more than that. Okay I'm not judging Muddy Watters or anything like that. I'm just saying if you play the extreme complexity of BB King in his heyday with the Kent recordings, you see that Muddy Waters wasn't going in for that kind of extreme complexity, and learn where Clapton learned his licks. Once you get used to playing their songs, at the same time do scales all the time. Then you understand where they're writing from. Pretty soon, you never "make a mistake" when you don't play what they wrote the day they recorded, because knowing the scale you can play variations and improvisations off any errors that turns them into part of the lead - just play it again and it's a call and response..

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BB Zen is "I sing and then I sing with my guitar" or something like that. I can't remember exactly but that's what he does. His guitar sings. That's the best lead. It's music - a song.

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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:59 pm
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ramire91 wrote:
i knew a kid with the same problem. the thing is that he wanted to solo and play lead guitar but didnt have any of the right music where he could steal licks from. to really learn something try listening to some of this stuff and learn your scales.

b.b. king live at the regal
cream disreali gears
derek and the dominoes layla album
stevie ray vaughan's in step and couldnt stand the weather
hendrix had great blues stuff- red house is a great example BUT YOU CAN LEARN EVERYTHING FROM HENDRIX!
Buddy Guy
Muddy Waters
Freddie King
Albert King too..

those are some good ones to start with

the blues is usually the best place to start when youre learning how to play lead guitar. TRUST ME.

BB KING is a great lead player but
hes horrible with chords he even
admits that. thats why he always has
a rythm guitarist.


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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:15 am
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love2play wrote:
A few suggestions of things I use:


4. Listen to different styles of music. Jazz & bluegrass are not my favorites but can these people rip!

Happy jamming!
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In this modern age of information technology, one of the few things I find unique (I'm sure I'm not the only one that does this) is tuning in to some of those "music" stations. According to your Cable or Satellite provider, there are a group of stations that cater to different eras/genres of music. From HM to Country to top 40, it's all there. On those days when I feel a bit lazy, I'll crank up those stations and just keep flipping through them for that musical variety. The lessons only require a monthly fee (your bill), but the palette is varied and broad. I think the stations are called Music Choices (at least in this area they are)

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:23 am
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Thanks for all the awesome advice! I agree that learning the "greats'" licks in combination with the scales is a very good starting point.

Has anyone had any need to learn the "Major Scale" as opposed to just learning the Minor Pentatonic and the Major Pentatonic? Or are most of you sticking to the two pentatonics as a foundation?


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jcrump wrote:
Thanks for all the awesome advice! I agree that learning the "greats'" licks in combination with the scales is a very good starting point.

Has anyone had any need to learn the "Major Scale" as opposed to just learning the Minor Pentatonic and the Major Pentatonic? Or are most of you sticking to the two pentatonics as a foundation?


Oh, my, no. Phrases like "breaking out of the pentatonic box" were not invented for nothing. You need major and minor scales (that's only two patterns after all, moved around the neck) and for improvising on the guitar you need to take on the mysterious voodoo that is modes. Where would Dickie Betts have been without his Dorian mode, for instance?

Here's a handy website. It doesn't tell you what they are, if you don't already know, but it does help you figure out how to play them:

http://www.mearstech.com/ModeMaster_com/default.htm

Good luck!


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i am a lead guitarist (and lead singer) 4 a rock band. I pretty much have been self teaching myself and looking up tabs on the internet. I have learned Sweet Child O' Mine, Rock You like a hurricane, reptilia, smoke on the water from tabs. Use these websites for help.
[list=] www.fretplay.com
www.tabpower.com
Have fun!!!!
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