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Post subject: Can't get enough Strats
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 2:33 am
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3 Strats now and I want more. I've had some 57 guitars and basses in my years but lately I want Strats. Image


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Post subject: Re: Can't get enough Strats
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:36 am
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I have 5 Strats right now, but I'm selling 2 two of them. I'm looking to find a '71 Strat somewhere out there.


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Post subject: Re: Can't get enough Strats
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 7:07 am
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I have 5 Strats right now, but I'm selling 2 two of them. I'm looking to find a '71 Strat somewhere out there.


Never enough strats. I would love a 67-71 myself but am piecing together a 73. The price of a 71 is getting astronomical as well as the parts for it....the necks alone cost more then a car lol. As far as my strat count overall I think I am close to a dozen now. The reason I don't have an exact count is I have been buying bodies, necks and parts for a few years now and have not taken inventory of them since my move. Been too busy with the customs and restoring a 69 Gibson SG I got for next to nothing. But the time is soon when the main workshop is ready to lay them all out and start ordering the rest of the stuff needed to complete them all. So many strats, so little time. But just knowing they are there gives me a happy. Granted that would increase 10 fold if I could play them all already :)

Speaking of 71's there is a neck here on ebay now.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-71-FENDER- ... 1c40fcd647 $7,000 plus shipping. Only "18" watchers lol.

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Post subject: Re: Can't get enough Strats
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:04 am
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whats so special about 67-71 models? and why are they so expensive? is it because there is only so few of them?

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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:54 am
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I have eleven Strats (one of them a 12-string). Whenever a particular color strikes my fancy I build another. It's a terrible affliction......

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Post subject: Re: Can't get enough Strats
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:41 am
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Marianeq wrote:
whats so special about 67-71 models? and why are they so expensive? is it because there is only so few of them?


Part of it is they were the years that used the large headstock before the bullet truss rod and since that was mainly what Hendrix played that alone makes them more desirable. With vintage guitars it seems there are "periods" or "transitions" that create the value to collectors and hence increase the value for the guitars and parts. The older it seems the more valuable. For example a 74 Strat is worth more then a 79 and there are only very subtle differences as far as the look and sound. Just as the mid-early 60s pre CBS strats are worth more then the later 60s CBS, the 50s strats are worth more then the 60s ones all else being equal. But that said a guitar is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay. Many times things are listed for sale at a much higher price then it can actually fetch and the seller is hoping for a sucker, or someone who is so desperate for the part they will gladly overpay. The bottom line is these older Strats are increasing in value (granted like anything else has fluctuations depending on the economy etc) and the more original the more it is worth since the fact of the matter is back then no one really considered them collectibles so many were parted out, routed, pickups replaced and the originals tossed, stripped paint or crappy refins, redrilled neck, changed tuners etc etc and all that makes it harder to rebuild an original hence just like old muscle car original parts they do not make anymore the price goes up..and more so if more desirable...supply and demand.

However once in a while you get a seller that does not really know what he/she has, or a seller that is so desperate for cash they will let something go well below market value. That is where I come in as the buyer, or other buyers like myself where we can resell it at a profit or at the very least have a guitar we love and always wanted without paying top dollar.

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Post subject: Re: Can't get enough Strats
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:49 am
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the moment you collect multiples of a guitar you have lost the plot, any musical instrument is about creating music not collecting - so while i am more than happy for you to have huge collections, maybe you could point us to the music you create with all these guitars?

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Post subject: Re: Can't get enough Strats
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:00 am
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the moment you collect multiples of a guitar you have lost the plot, any musical instrument is about creating music not collecting - so while i am more than happy for you to have huge collections, maybe you could point us to the music you create with all these guitars?


Well you might not be aware but collecting instruments is a very popular hobby as well as a business. Granted I only need one good guitar and bass for what I do as far as playing I also enjoy building all the guitars I always wanted whether it be because I fell in love with the looks, or a player I admired had one. This section of the forum is dedicated to Strat fanatics and owners, not to link to music we created with them. I am sure you can youtube just about any model strat and get an idea of what different models and setups sound like granted I confess the true "tone" starts at the fingers.

That said, as I complete my builds I am now considering making youtubes of them and posting links in the eBay adds so the potential buyers can see and hear it in action. The thing is with the strats and teles I am building I may never want to sell them.

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Post subject: Re: Can't get enough Strats
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:51 am
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A year ago I met a guy from Philippines who works in a nursing home, he spends his wages on guitars, and not because he is an accomplished musician ... in fact his musical skills are not that good. He buys guitars that are rare and also for their appearance. I didn't see his whole collection, but he's got around 20 guitars and occasionally sells them with good profit.

I was wondering whether the specific runs of Fender strats were particularly good on a given year, hence ridiculous prices, but I see now that it's basically down to aesthetics and sentiment, and to a marginal extent down to real practical benefits the guitar offers. No?

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Post subject: Re: Can't get enough Strats
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:34 pm
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Marianeq wrote:
A year ago I met a guy from Philippines who works in a nursing home, he spends his wages on guitars, and not because he is an accomplished musician ... in fact his musical skills are not that good. He buys guitars that are rare and also for their appearance. I didn't see his whole collection, but he's got around 20 guitars and occasionally sells them with good profit.

I was wondering whether the specific runs of Fender strats were particularly good on a given year, hence ridiculous prices, but I see now that it's basically down to aesthetics and sentiment, and to a marginal extent down to real practical benefits the guitar offers. No?


It depends. Some people are really not collectors but pro players that are looking for a very specific vintage sound. For example years ago I was at a musical on Broadway in NYC and happened to have seats by the orchestra section. I noticed the guitarist had an older strat and I starting talking with him before the show. He told me that it was required that to play guitar in that show he had to use a pre CBS model since it was 50s style music. Now in all honesty would any average person be able to tell by the sound alone? Doubtful but some people are really that particular.

As far as collectible there could be many reasons why one guitar is more valuable then another. For example if someone is buying only for the intent to turn it over for a profit all they care about is that it is prices below average market and nothing else. A big factor is cost. There are certain models that are far more valuable be it something as basic as a rare color to if it is a special or limited edition, or if it was previously owned or used by someone famous and it has bullet proof documentation.

But in general more important then condition is originality when discussing vintage and that is because some of the parts are difficult and or very expensive to find and even a beat up faded original finish is worth more then an excellent condition refinish/restored one. And this is why the ones in really good shape and all original/complete can ask in the $30,000 to $100,000 range whereas a similar year that is not all original might have trouble getting $10,000. And when you think about it if you replace a tuner with one from the correct year no one can really tell but if the original paint is gone...that is irreplacable. Even the best professional painter/restorer on earth can not reproduce a 50+ year old finish. Only time can do that and real collectors investing that kind of money have ways to tell if it is restored/refinished or authentic.

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Post subject: Re: Can't get enough Strats
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:59 pm
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ebaysux wrote:
The thing is with the strats and teles I am building I may never want to sell them.


+1

My past if full of "Gee I should've kept that (insert various guitar and amp models here)!".

Now, I never sell anything.

If I grow bored with a particular guitar I just stick it under my bed for safekeeping.

(my boxspring is currently about five feet off the floor)

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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:04 pm
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ebaysux wrote:
The thing is with the strats and teles I am building I may never want to sell them.


+1

My past if full of "Gee I should've kept that (insert various guitar and amp models here)!".

Now, I never sell anything.

If I grow bored with a particular guitar I just stick it under my bed for safekeeping.

(my boxspring is currently about five feet off the floor)

:mrgreen:

Arjay


+10000. I dread how many 70s Strats I sold as a kid in the 80s when I had no idea how badly I would want them today and that it is nearly impossible to find or afford one now. Same with a few cars I have owned. But I know better now. I will hold onto these unless it is life or death or if I grow tired of it and know in my heart I won't regret parting with it.

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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:05 pm
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Don't even get me started on cars!

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Post subject: Re: Can't get enough Strats
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:30 pm
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I know the feeling. I was up to a dozen Strats three years ago before I started thinning the herd. Ended up keeping six... one vintage, one Custom Shop, an American Vintage, a Surf Green American Standard I couldn't resist and my two favorite MIMs.

Of course thinning the herd never really works for me. I ended up filling the void with Teles and Gibsons. GAS is a powerful force. :)

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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:23 pm
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It's the "Can't Get Enough Strats Club."

If you buy one a year, after awhile, you will have a lot. And you become a collector by default.

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