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Post subject: Re: American Std. Stratocaster or strange mix Stratocaster?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:26 pm
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...American strats are supposed to be using steel blocks...


Bad news for you, the Am Std blocks are "copper infused", are not cold rolled, they are cast, and are not all steel by any account. The Am Spcl and even the Am Dlx are cast blocks (low grade leaded steel).

Even the bigger blocks on most Fender Strats that attract a magnet are not cold rolled steel, they are cast blocks. The only Strats that claim to have CRS are the vintage reissues and CS guitars. Even then, the CS hasn't exactly been straight-forward about their blocks. The claims about using "original tooling" were quite misleading, as it doesn't matter what kind of steel is put into the tooling, and they didn't even drill the holes to vintage specs. Only recently did Fender actually make the blocks "just like Leo did", as was reluctantly admitted by the departed ME of the CS. I still don't believe that they use CRS either, but I would be willing to admit that I'm wrong if someone could test them and prove it.

I can tell you that the Fender CS blocks are lighter weight than Callaham blocks, and Callaham claims to use CRS, and I believe Callaham over ME any day. :wink:


Well other then using a magnet I was never concerned enough to send the blocks out to a metallurgist to have them analyzed. But of course I am concerned when selling a build that if I advertise a steel block as part of the selling point that it is in one form or another justified. I guess as long as a magnet sticks to it and I don't make any claims that it is 100% pure virgin unobtanium steel forged out of a meteorite found in the arctic by some famous explorer then I am not being too misleading lol.

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Post subject: Re: American Std. Stratocaster or strange mix Stratocaster?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:51 pm
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ebaysux wrote:
I guess as long as a magnet sticks to it and I don't make any claims that it is 100% pure virgin unobtanium steel forged out of a meteorite found in the arctic by some famous explorer then I am not being too misleading lol.


Though he's done so in the past, Bob Lazar is not currently selling any unobtainium for commercial purposes. I once purchased a small stock from him but some MIB types in a black helicopter landed right in my driveway one night and seized it all.

:(

(I should've lined the walls of my shop with lead)

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Post subject: Re: American Std. Stratocaster or strange mix Stratocaster?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:09 pm
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ebaysux wrote:
...But of course I am concerned when selling a build that if I advertise a steel block as part of the selling point that it is in one form or another justified. I guess as long as a magnet sticks to it...


Similar to advertising a gold coin and not disclosing that it is only plated and not solid. Same thing , right? :wink:

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Post subject: Re: American Std. Stratocaster or strange mix Stratocaster?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:59 pm
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shimmilou wrote:
ebaysux wrote:
...But of course I am concerned when selling a build that if I advertise a steel block as part of the selling point that it is in one form or another justified. I guess as long as a magnet sticks to it...


Similar to advertising a gold coin and not disclosing that it is only plated and not solid. Same thing , right? :wink:


I guess if you could test it with a magnet..... 8)

But yeah anything goes these days. Heck McDonalds claims 100% "beef"...but fails to mention what part of the cow is the "beef". Now of course if there were truth in advertising I imagine it might hurt sales if that said "100% scraps and hoofs and scrotum and assorted pink slime".

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Post subject: Re: American Std. Stratocaster or strange mix Stratocaster?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:34 pm
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I always wondered, when they said; "Made with 100% beef", and never "only" 100% beef. With beef and......?

Yeah, what part of the cow....and where are the cows from? China maybe? :lol:

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Post subject: Re: American Std. Stratocaster or strange mix Stratocaster?
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:49 pm
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I don't think anyone but the top execs and perhaps the meat packers actually know for sure what "beef" McDonalds uses but if it was anything good it would make sense that they described it in less general terms. I imagine psychologically when people see "100% beef" perhaps they are gambling that some are thinking it is ground up choice cuts of steak and not pink slime or any scraps from a cow which technically can be called beef.

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