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Post subject: Re: bending strings on a tremolo strat
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:37 pm
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prmguitar wrote:
Every time I bend a string a full step or more, it pulls the others strings flat. It's pulling the tremolo toward the headstock.

I'm sure this is a common problem, anything I can do about it? I heard of putting 5 springs in the tremolo to put more tension, is that the only option? This keeps the tremolo pulled back all the time?

i dont have this problem


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Post subject: Re: bending strings on a tremolo strat
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:22 am
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manabu108 wrote:
Maintaining the manufacturer suggested setting of a 1/8" float is the magic of the Strat.


Where is this 1/8" measured, exactly? From the body to the top of the bridge? Bottom?


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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:09 pm
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Bottom. Some one suggested to me when I first got the strat that an easy way to measure this is to place a cigar box lid between the body and bridge .. the width of the box lid is about an 1/8 inch.

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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:24 pm
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take a look at the Hipshot Web site for their Trem Setter device. It was provided on some Strat models and is still listed as a Fender accessory part. I have them on both of my Strats. It takes getting used to because there is a detent or thump you can feel as the bridge comes past the neutral part, but you can still shimmer up and down while avoiding the problem you talk about.

First, try another spring. Say, four springs with .090 or .010 strings - it will minimize but not eliminate the problem. American Standard springs are black and they're hard to find. Vintage style springs are silver colored and they're available everywhere. The Hipshot does solve the problem but it has to be set up properly and you have to get used to the feel.

I think we're all avoiding the solution that's very popular - put on all five springs and tighten the claw so the bridge is flat to the top. Then you can only dive and not raise the bar, but that didn't slow down Stevie Ray much.


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Post subject: Re: bending strings on a tremolo strat
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:43 pm
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manabu108 wrote:
prmguitar wrote:
Every time I bend a string a full step or more, it pulls the others strings flat. It's pulling the tremolo toward the headstock.

I'm sure this is a common problem, anything I can do about it? I heard of putting 5 springs in the tremolo to put more tension, is that the only option? This keeps the tremolo pulled back all the time?


Hi prmguitar,

I suggest that you check out a few of the live performances by David Gilmour on Youtube and watch how he uses the tremolo. The greatest strength of the Stratocaster is the floating bridge. Maintaining the manufacturer suggested setting of a 1/8" float is the magic of the Strat. IMHO to set the bridge flush to the body negates the strength of the Strat. With a floating bridge it is true that there is a pitch dive during bends and double stops so that is the time to pull back on the bar and wail! This way you can add beautiful ornamentation to your expressions. If you listen to the masters of the Srat you will notice that the majority of them use gentle vibratos as an expression. You can't do that with your bridge clamped down on the body. Watch some Hendrix, SRV, Malmsteen, or EJ and you will see them use the trem to do anything from a gentle vibrato to some aggressive warbling to increase sustain and feedback while playing in high gain. You can't do that unless the bridge is floating.


i hate to spoil your little floating bridge thing but both Jimi Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughan used 5 springs in the back and had the bridge flush with the body.....

and for the David Gilmour thing check out Marooned live from the Strat Pack not only is he playing the #001 strat but he shows some extreme tremolo bar skills!!!

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