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Post subject: What is my guitar worth? and would it be suitable to mod?
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 6:57 pm
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How much do these go for? i picked up a second hand Fender Stratocaster in 2003 as my first guitar for $450 Australian at a garage sale. its a Made in Japan, Red with white scratch plate, cream pickups and knobs. looks pretty stock. Serial No. F 010308. so i know its 1986-87. i was thinking of selling it, as i want to get something more modern and tailored to metal core. Also, if i moded this with hum buckers, like semour duncans, and set it up for drop A# with some heavy gauge strings. would that be alright, because i do love the thin neck and light weight.
so i guess... sell? or mod?
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 7:08 pm
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I'm not familiar with drop A#. Is it an open tuning? What size strings would be used?

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Post subject: Re: What is my guitar worth? and would it be suitable to mod
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 7:17 pm
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Its A# - F - A# - D# - G# - C.
i'll be using .64 to .74 gauge strings.


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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:35 pm
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spriggsbenn wrote:
...i'll be using .64 to .74 gauge strings.


:shock:

I don't know of any Strat that can handle that size strings. I use from .009s up to .011s, with the biggest size (low E) being about .054. The size that you are suggesting is freakin' huge, and who even makes strings that size?

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Post subject: Re: What is my guitar worth? and would it be suitable to mod
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:51 pm
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D'addario and one or two other companies make upto .80
and bands such as 'bring me the horizon' and 'Northlane' use that size string on the heaviest one.
i put on .59 to see how it went, and all feels pretty good. but the standard for the heavy music i want to play is from .59 to .74


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shimmilou wrote:
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...i'll be using .64 to .74 gauge strings.


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I don't know of any Strat that can handle that size strings. I use from .009s up to .011s, with the biggest size (low E) being about .054. The size that you are suggesting is freakin' huge, and who even makes strings that size?

I'm guessing the lower tuning combined with the heavier strings that the tension isn't significantly changed.

I don't know that for certain.

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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:39 pm
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spriggsbenn wrote:
D'addario and one or two other companies make upto .80

i put on .59 to see how it went, and all feels pretty good. but the standard for the heavy music i want to play is from .59 to .74


The numbers shimmilou is giving above are in inches. What unit are your numbers?
I'm betting you have a misplaced decimal point.

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Post subject: Re: What is my guitar worth? and would it be suitable to mod
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 10:41 pm
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Guitar World interview with Bring Me The Horizon:

Why do you use such massive guitar-string gauges? — Eric Bauer

I was playing normal strings for ages. We tune low, to C standard or drop-As, so I started using a .070 on the lowest string. When I got the First Act Sheena, they drilled the bridge so I could fit an .080-gauge bass string in there, and I started using that. Then Ernie Ball was cool enough to make me custom .080-gauge guitar strings, and I’ve been using them ever since. Since we tune so low, there is a noticeable difference in the sound of heavier gauge strings as compared to normal ones. I play a lot of single-string riffs, so the heavier strings keep it sounding solid.

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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 11:08 pm
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.074 is what i meant. on the packets here (australia) they read .74. i'm not sure what measurement that is.
HIGHLINE - did you do this with a fender strat?? and if so, what pickups did you use?
i was going to put blackouts onto my strat. and also take it to my local guitar tech to set up the neck to the new tuning/tension...


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Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 5:28 pm
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No. Just no. You might be completely crazy if you were to use .64s on a Strat. Not only would you risk permanently bending your neck, the pickups might get damaged too! It's a 1986-87 MIJ Strat; have some respect for it. Speaking of mods; yeah, you could install Seymour Duncan Hot Rails. They're quite good IMO. If I were you though, I would leave the guitar as it is.

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 5:50 pm
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I'd be very interested to hear how you think heavy strings are going to damage the pickups.

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 6:15 pm
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GilgaFrank wrote:
I'd be very interested to hear how you think heavy strings are going to damage the pickups.

Higher gauge strings put off much wider ranges of frequencies and on certain pickups; such as the ones on Strats; they make the sound much less clean. Even in the cleanest of settings it may still sound a little bit broken up. Pickups are not much more than magnets, and since strings are made of metal, they pull on the strings. If the pickups are close enough to the strings (due to their thickness) it can shorten sustain and over time damage the pickups due to the magnet not coping up with higher frequencies.

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 6:38 pm
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JoyadityaSaha wrote:
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I'd be very interested to hear how you think heavy strings are going to damage the pickups.

Higher gauge strings put off much wider ranges of frequencies and on certain pickups; such as the ones on Strats; they make the sound much less clean. Even in the cleanest of settings it may still sound a little bit broken up. Pickups are not much more than magnets, and since strings are made of metal, they pull on the strings. If the pickups are close enough to the strings (due to their thickness) it can shorten sustain and over time damage the pickups due to the magnet not coping up with higher frequencies.


Why would a heavier string put out a wider range of frequencies? I'm genuinely interested to learn the physics behind this. How many pickups have you broken this way? Does the wire break? Do the pole pieces become demagnetized?

Have you ever seen the thickness of bass strings? Those don't damage pickups.

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Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:20 pm
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GilgaFrank wrote:
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I'd be very interested to hear how you think heavy strings are going to damage the pickups.

Higher gauge strings put off much wider ranges of frequencies and on certain pickups; such as the ones on Strats; they make the sound much less clean. Even in the cleanest of settings it may still sound a little bit broken up. Pickups are not much more than magnets, and since strings are made of metal, they pull on the strings. If the pickups are close enough to the strings (due to their thickness) it can shorten sustain and over time damage the pickups due to the magnet not coping up with higher frequencies.


Why would a heavier string put out a wider range of frequencies? I'm genuinely interested to learn the physics behind this. How many pickups have you broken this way? Does the wire break? Do the pole pieces become demagnetized?

Have you ever seen the thickness of bass strings? Those don't damage pickups.


Nevermind. Just saw your sig. Oh, God! Why? :shock:

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Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 5:50 am
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JoyadityaSaha wrote:
GilgaFrank wrote:
I'd be very interested to hear how you think heavy strings are going to damage the pickups.

Higher gauge strings put off much wider ranges of frequencies and on certain pickups; such as the ones on Strats; they make the sound much less clean. Even in the cleanest of settings it may still sound a little bit broken up. Pickups are not much more than magnets, and since strings are made of metal, they pull on the strings. If the pickups are close enough to the strings (due to their thickness) it can shorten sustain and over time damage the pickups due to the magnet not coping up with higher frequencies.


Where in the world did you get this idea from :?: :roll:
Seriously, a vibrating (oscillating ) string disrupts an electromagnetic field, that electrical interference signal is then sent to your amp... Layman explanation but frequencies are not present at the string to pickup location... The break up of sound you refer to has much more to do with a speakers capability to reproduce lower pitched notes, thus why bass amps use much larger diameter cones... The lower the pitch, the larger volume of air needs to be pushed..

I think you are taking two very separate phases of an electric guitar and the sound reproduced and not distinguishing between the variables... :?

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