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Post subject: Re: buzz question
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:50 am
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Stratmangler2 wrote:
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aggresive picking=let's say normal strum of a chord with a tad more force



thanks so my guitars are not faulty right?


Your guitars are probably not faulty, just possibly in need of a decent setup.

How bad is the buzzing and rattling if you play a touch lighter than you normally do?

well i already have a medium touch, but with a light touch, little to no buzz. almost 0 buzz


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Post subject: Re: buzz question
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:29 am
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72guy wrote:
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How bad is the buzzing and rattling if you play a touch lighter than you normally do?

well i already have a medium touch, but with a light touch, little to no buzz. almost 0 buzz

I think you're on to something Startmangler2! :D

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Post subject: Re: buzz question
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:32 pm
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72guy wrote:
Stratmangler2 wrote:
72guy wrote:
aggresive picking=let's say normal strum of a chord with a tad more force



thanks so my guitars are not faulty right?


Your guitars are probably not faulty, just possibly in need of a decent setup.

How bad is the buzzing and rattling if you play a touch lighter than you normally do?

well i already have a medium touch, but with a light touch, little to no buzz. almost 0 buzz

K... that's an indication that your action is too LOW.... and it also sounds like the truss needs to be loosened... EVER... so slightly(like mentioned by the others...).
Your guitar tech will have it rockin and rollin in no time...
But.. as the other Cats here have said... It's worth it to learn how to setup the guitar yourself... you'll be happy if you do ;)
Because no one knows what feels the best to you... other than youurself.

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Post subject: Re: buzz question
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:10 pm
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Also consider the cost savings. A typical setup job costs around $50, and takes a day. (If the luthier does it while you wait, you're not getting a proper relief job.)
Unless you live in the parts of the south without climate changes, you typically want this done at least twice a year, as the humidity changes. More often if you travel.
For each guitar, you thus pay around $100 a year for something you can easily learn to do yourself - better, even, if you can spend extra time on fine-adjusting, or doing it more often.

If you have several guitars you actually use for more than wall ornaments, and thus want properly adjusted, the savings can be really big. Taking five guitars to the axe doctor for adjustments twice a year will cost you ~$2500 over five years, not counting travel expenses and time lost.


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Post subject: Re: buzz question
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:31 am
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I have a question for Strat players as well. Similar issue really.

Since my first guitar is a Strat, I'd like to have some basic knowledge about them. :)

1) Do Strats (or other electric guitars in general) get fret buzz on the 5th and 6th string? Assuming they pick hard / medium
2) Is the first string slipping from the fret a common thing?
3) Do Strats have problems with their whammy bar being unable to remain sufficiently tight, i.e. do they keep getting lose (so you have to turn it to tighten it again)?


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Post subject: Re: buzz question
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:59 am
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retrotoons wrote:
I have a question for Strat players as well. Similar issue really.

Since my first guitar is a Strat, I'd like to have some basic knowledge about them. :)

1) Do Strats (or other electric guitars in general) get fret buzz on the 5th and 6th string? Assuming they pick hard / medium
2) Is the first string slipping from the fret a common thing?
3) Do Strats have problems with their whammy bar being unable to remain sufficiently tight, i.e. do they keep getting lose (so you have to turn it to tighten it again)?


As you say your first guitar is a Strat I take it you're new to playing.

This bit about hard/medium picking bothers me.
There's a line between hard picking and just banging on the thing, and new players can tend towards the latter.
There's no need to bang on it as it won't get any louder (if you want louder turn your amp up) and the strings are shoved outside of their operational parameters, which results in buzzes and rattles and just a godawful noise.

With the string slipping off the fret bit there is more than a possibility that the guitar neck isn't properly in alignment.
This might not be using Fender parts, but it covers the principles.



With the tremolo arm this might help


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Post subject: Re: buzz question
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:13 am
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Hi Chris thanks for the reply. :) Yep I am a beginner guitar player.

I don't bang on the strings though. I am learning some songs that require me to strum continuously or pick hard at some chords so I just wanted to know is at least some fret buzz is normal.

Also when I practice the G chord it honestly feels like the first string is about to slip off and sometimes it does. :|


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Post subject: Re: buzz question
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:35 am
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retrotoons wrote:
Also when I practice the G chord it honestly feels like the first string is about to slip off and sometimes it does. :|

You may want to increase the string gauge, or practice on using less force with your left hand. You don't need a death grip where you push the strings onto the fretboard - only enough to push the strings down on the fret.


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Post subject: Re: buzz question
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:17 am
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retrotoons wrote:
Hi Chris thanks for the reply. :) Yep I am a beginner guitar player.

I don't bang on the strings though. I am learning some songs that require me to strum continuously or pick hard at some chords so I just wanted to know is at least some fret buzz is normal.

Also when I practice the G chord it honestly feels like the first string is about to slip off and sometimes it does. :|


Welcome to the club.
It (playing guitar) can sometimes be the most frustrating thing you do, yet at other times it will be the most rewarding.
And your journey as a player never reaches a final destination.
Enjoy the journey.

Doing a little practice, often, is better than having marathon sessions.
Marathon sessions just give you cramp and sore fingers.

As arth1 says, you don't need a death grip with your fretting hand.
Fret buzz is not unusual, but your touch will improve with time, and as your touch improves fret buzz will lessen.

With your strumming try to use your wrist rather than your forearm - notice how this guy is playing using wrist rotation


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Post subject: Re: buzz question
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:40 am
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I very much agree with the advice given above.

Just to add a few pointers: a Strat, with it's narrow neck, isn't the absolutely easiest guitar for a beginner - but don't be scared by that remark, you'll benefit later.
Try to use the lightest touch you can to get a clean note/chord - it will help you when you start to pick up some speed licks. Same goes with your pick hand, practice light and get the force later if you feel the need.
Also, try different picks - there's a difference between a 3mm extra rigid and a 0,75mm medium pick...


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Post subject: Re: buzz question
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:08 pm
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Stratmangler2 wrote:
Doing a little practice, often, is better than having marathon sessions.
Marathon sessions just give you cramp and sore fingers.

As arth1 says, you don't need a death grip with your fretting hand.
Fret buzz is not unusual, but your touch will improve with time, and as your touch improves fret buzz will lessen.


that is so true. when i started learning i used to be frustrated by buzz, but as my technique improved, i was able to control the force of pick stroke... but now i mostly play without pick, just fingers, and that's how i found my own style of playing :mrgreen:

good luck!

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