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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:11 am
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I am totally aware that MIM strats have noisy pickups when set in the bridge, middle, or neck positon. I am only 14 but i have had a lot of performing experiance. between playing at church, restraunts, bars ( with older bands), camps, and just jamming on my own. i CAN NOT stand the buzzing sound. I am looking into the Jeff Beck Fender noisless pickups. I am looking more at these because i want a little more crunch when useing alot of Distortion... but i still want that amazing tone of a strat when set on clean... anybody have these and have any oppions ar facts that i should know?


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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:34 am
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buy a noise suppresion pedal that'll do the trick

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i've got one and it dosent help very much... i have really nice line 6 spider 3 150 watt that i like useing the presets on... unless i'm using my tube screamer or my loop station. I've also got a Boss DS-1 that i'm really not impressed with. I do however like my Boss Blues Driver BD-2 but it is what causes the buzz and i've adjusted it and it still does it.


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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:19 am
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You can do a lot to improve your situation by shielding the pickup cavities, and also the back of the pickguard, assuming there is no shielding there already (thin metal foil on the back of the 'guard, yes?) If there is shielding already, just check that it is properly hooked up: it ain't doing anything for you if it isn't part of the circuit.

Umpteen webpages out there to show you how to go about this: or buy the book.

Also, if you can be bothered, you can make a slight further improvement by redoing the wiring with shielded wire. You'd need to enjoy wielding a soldering iron, though...

Personally, I'm not wild about noise suppressors. Soon as you can actually tell it's there, it is already turned up too high and doing nasty things to your playing feel.


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Vintage Noisless is fine :wink:


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they are nice, but they don't have that vintage bluesy strat sound (even if they are ''Vintage'')


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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:58 am
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Well, there are a few things.

1) Single coils are going to be somewhat "noisy" with some mid and most high gain settings. That Line 6 may not be as quiet as you want for you in this situation.

2) Make sure you have that SS properly grounded. Don't use a cheater plug for the wall, and make sure wherever you plug it in is properly grounded. This alone will stop a lot of buzz.

3) You have to learn to deal with some noise and feedback in general when you play at higher volumes. You can't crank an amp up, stand in front of it with the volume wide open, not playing anything, and expect total silence.

Get used to rolling that volume off when you're not playing (between songs, during parts when you're not playing in a song, etc).

While you probably already know all this, I just wanted to throw it out there. The grounding does help though, more than most people think.


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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:44 am
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dgonz wrote:
Well, there are a few things.

1) Single coils are going to be somewhat "noisy" with some mid and most high gain settings. That Line 6 may not be as quiet as you want for you in this situation.

2) Make sure you have that SS properly grounded. Don't use a cheater plug for the wall, and make sure wherever you plug it in is properly grounded. This alone will stop a lot of buzz.

3) You have to learn to deal with some noise and feedback in general when you play at higher volumes. You can't crank an amp up, stand in front of it with the volume wide open, not playing anything, and expect total silence.

Get used to rolling that volume off when you're not playing (between songs, during parts when you're not playing in a song, etc).

While you probably already know all this, I just wanted to throw it out there. The grounding does help though, more than most people think.


I agree. Just about a week ago.......I was playing through a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe and heard a lot of buzz. Couldn't figure it out. After a bit of looking around.....I discovered that it was the new CFL (florescent) light bulbs that I had just put into a lamp. Apparently they put out some type of hum into the power lines. I changed power plugs for my amp, and the problem was instantly solved.


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Syeklops wrote:
dgonz wrote:
Well, there are a few things.

1) Single coils are going to be somewhat "noisy" with some mid and most high gain settings. That Line 6 may not be as quiet as you want for you in this situation.

2) Make sure you have that SS properly grounded. Don't use a cheater plug for the wall, and make sure wherever you plug it in is properly grounded. This alone will stop a lot of buzz.

3) You have to learn to deal with some noise and feedback in general when you play at higher volumes. You can't crank an amp up, stand in front of it with the volume wide open, not playing anything, and expect total silence.

Get used to rolling that volume off when you're not playing (between songs, during parts when you're not playing in a song, etc).

While you probably already know all this, I just wanted to throw it out there. The grounding does help though, more than most people think.


I agree. Just about a week ago.......I was playing through a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe and heard a lot of buzz. Couldn't figure it out. After a bit of looking around.....I discovered that it was the new CFL (florescent) light bulbs that I had just put into a lamp. Apparently they put out some type of hum into the power lines. I changed power plugs for my amp, and the problem was instantly solved.


All of these and a good shielding and one more thing. Your instrument cable. I don’t know how many people, and myself included back in my early years of playing, have said that when they upgraded cables from the cheap ones that came with an amp or a guitar or what they could afford to a more reliable better built cable, have said that the noise level dropped significantly. Something else worth looking into

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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:03 pm
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^^ Yes, great point. I'm so used to Monsters now I forget about that. Cheaper cables have a lot to do with this, and the shielding like Ceri mentioned as well.

This goes for your patch cables as well. It doesn't do much good (any good) to have one Monster (or george l, or mogami, whatever), and $5 GC specials for the rest of your signal chain.

As a reference point, I could take your strat, connect it to my rig into my mesa boogie, crank up the volume and gain (within reason for a single coil), and you wouldn't much, if any, noise.


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dgonz wrote:
^^ Yes, great point. I'm so used to Monsters now I forget about that. Cheaper cables have a lot to do with this, and the shielding like Ceri mentioned as well.

This goes for your patch cables as well. It doesn't do much good (any good) to have one Monster (or george l, or mogami, whatever), and $5 GC specials for the rest of your signal chain.

As a reference point, I could take your strat, connect it to my rig into my mesa boogie, crank up the volume and gain (within reason for a single coil), and you wouldn't much, if any, noise.


Quite right. It can be really astonishing how much difference cable quality makes. It's the sort of thing you can be inclined to cut corners on - big mistake. And the shortest cable you can get away with in a given situation is good, too. If just practicing at home, don't be plugging in a 30 yard lead...


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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:20 am
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I you have done everything that has been suggested here (which were all excellent advice) you might have to look at replacement pick-ups. The Jeff Beck one's are fabulous but please give the Kinman Woodstocks a chance as well. They are completely noiseless (at least they are in my MIM strat) and are voiced like the '68 strat pickups. They handle extremely high gain settings very well and has that sparkle on clean settings that so many strat players love.


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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:45 pm
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carstens wrote:
I you have done everything that has been suggested here (which were all excellent advice) you might have to look at replacement pick-ups. The Jeff Beck one's are fabulous but please give the Kinman Woodstocks a chance as well. They are completely noiseless (at least they are in my MIM strat) and are voiced like the '68 strat pickups. They handle extremely high gain settings very well and has that sparkle on clean settings that so many strat players love.


Sweet... where can i get them


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One last thing: Make sure your amp chassis is gounded and grounded well. I don't know the numbers you should get from a
Digital Volt -Ohm-Meter (VOM) test as decribed below but I am sure there are folks here that could provide that number.
UNPLUG your amp and remove the chassis from the cabinet. perform a resistance check between the chassis and the ground wire's end at the plug going through the power cord. The reading should be zero or very close to that.
I only suggest this to rule out the last possibilty of a noise source; it's pretty remote this is a source of noise; but IMHO it is a possibility....
You could ask about GROUND LOOPS too.


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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:23 pm
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hi cravelp1115,
I'm 14 too but i have a lot experience in modify a guitar :D
I agree with dna9656 and dgonz. And for me, changing pickups with a reason 'noise' is a stupid thing (except the pickup wound has a little problem)
Better you find out the noise problem with someone who has more experience about noise. It could be caused by cable, amp, wiring, and input jack


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