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Cool - thanks for the info!


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mthomps07 wrote:
That was the original reverse proto with the contour on the front. Info here: http://www.modernguitars.com/archives/000039.html


what an awesome read! thanks for the link!!!

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I bought a flipped lefty, Squire, from a pawn shop dirt cheap. I was broke and off work from an auto wreck. I played it until my insurance claim was settled then bought a Vintage (82?) Strat. My nephew wants to learn and is a lefty, so his Xmas present is covered. Also not nice to talk about stealing guitars, even in jest. It happened to me back in '89. If I ever see that guitar, there will be very pointed questions asked!!


and probably very pointed objects to accompany those pointed questions :roll: :P


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funny that steve miller would buy a lefty and play it righty.... his bass player was a lefty that HAD to play upside down right handed basses.... what a jerk! if someone i knew bought a lefty and swapped it, i would pummel them with the heaviest right handed guitar i own untill they gave it to me..


all you guys with lefties that are righties will be destined to live in guitar players hell in the after life and will have to play right handed guitars reversed to lefty just so you know the pain and anguish it causes young poor lefty players... i know if several lefties that quit guitar because they couldnt afford a lefty....

bastards..


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there was a rare strat called the reverse or something or another where the back contour was on the front, the head was reversed and the arm contour was on the rear (like holding a lefty guitar wit hthe strings on your stomach is how it looked). and pick up reversed... stevie ray v. plays one in a video or two.. it was white i think.. i cant remember who he was playing with at the time but it was someone that wasnt the same style AT all...


That was the original reverse proto with the contour on the front. Info here: http://www.modernguitars.com/archives/000039.html



........What a great looking strat! Must sound just as good as it looks!!

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...It's contoured both at the front and back.


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nice looking strat.


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That does look nice!

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btwade wrote:
i was thinking of finding a left handed strat and flipping it just like hendrix did. i would be cool to play. What do u think?


Back then.......there was little choice. Nobody made things for leftys. I remember as a kid, I had to learn to use a right handed baseball glove for baseball. Since then.....things have improved.

Also.......and I know nothing about this......but is the nut grooves cut in such a way, that it allows more room for the 4th, 5th, and 6th string? Maybe it matters for the tuning machines too.

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evol04gt wrote:
all you guys with lefties that are righties will be destined to live in guitar players hell in the after life and will have to play right handed guitars reversed to lefty just so you know the pain and anguish it causes young poor lefty players... i know if several lefties that quit guitar because they couldnt afford a lefty....

bastards..



:roll: They quit because they didn't want to fork out an extra $100.00 on a lefty guitar? Sounds like a quitter to me!


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wow... well a few years ago you really couldnt find anything lefty ever... and 100 more for a 300 dollar guitar is a little rediculous too..


and there are almost zero options compared to righties...





my traditional strat was 400 back in 96 and righty traditionals were 260..totally rediculous.



these days its not bad...but still..


all these lefties have made fender famous but no one cares to make the rare guitars in lefty...i dont need six standard strats or 2 options in the telecaster.. people want the weird stuff too..... even if its more money, just make it!!!!!


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evol04gt wrote:
wow... well a few years ago you really couldnt find anything lefty ever... and 100 more for a 300 dollar guitar is a little rediculous too..


and there are almost zero options compared to righties...





my traditional strat was 400 back in 96 and righty traditionals were 260..totally rediculous.



these days its not bad...but still..


all these lefties have made fender famous but no one cares to make the rare guitars in lefty...i dont need six standard strats or 2 options in the telecaster.. people want the weird stuff too..... even if its more money, just make it!!!!!


At this point I don't even think it's a cost factor. Everything is computerized. And......I do things on the computer all the time. All the plans that they have, all they have to tell the computer program is to reverse everything, then produce it. As a lefty...all this right handed stuff has always sort of made me wonder. There are a lot of lefties out there, so they can't say there is not a market for it.

I do a lot of gun shooting, and all gun designs (they're still in the past) are for righties. I've learned to adapt my fingers, etc, to shoot right handed guns, and I'm just as fast as any right hander. But.....as a principle....lefties shouldn't have to do that.

As a Kid when I played baseball, I could never find a left handed glove. It required me to catch the ball, remove the glove (with the ball in it), and throw it, wherever, then put the glove back on my throwing hand.

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What a great looking strat! Must sound just as good as it looks!!

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...It's contoured both at the front and back.


I could never quite figure out the point of the contours on that guitar. Weird. :?:

And consider this: if a LOT more righties bought lefty guitars, then the companies would make a LOT more of them!

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evol04gt wrote:
wow... well a few years ago you really couldnt find anything lefty ever... and 100 more for a 300 dollar guitar is a little rediculous too..

and there are almost zero options compared to righties...

my traditional strat was 400 back in 96 and righty traditionals were 260..totally rediculous.

all these lefties have made fender famous but no one cares to make the rare guitars in lefty...i dont need six standard strats or 2 options in the telecaster.. people want the weird stuff too..... even if its more money, just make it!!!!!


At this point I don't even think it's a cost factor. Everything is computerized. And......I do things on the computer all the time. All the plans that they have, all they have to tell the computer program is to reverse everything, then produce it. As a lefty...all this right handed stuff has always sort of made me wonder. There are a lot of lefties out there, so they can't say there is not a market for it.

I do a lot of gun shooting, and all gun designs (they're still in the past) are for righties. I've learned to adapt my fingers, etc, to shoot right handed guns, and I'm just as fast as any right hander. But.....as a principle....lefties shouldn't have to do that.

As a Kid when I played baseball, I could never find a left handed glove. It required me to catch the ball, remove the glove (with the ball in it), and throw it, wherever, then put the glove back on my throwing hand.


The big companies' argument is this: around ten percent of the population is left-handed, and of those around half of left-handed guitarists play right-handed (like Mark Knopfler - and me). Which leaves only five percent wanting to buy left-handed instruments. They say that it is more expensive to re-jig to produce left-handed instruments and the sales don't justify doing so except on limited model options.

Five percent of the market don't justify the effort - they say.

So think about this. Fender produce the Jazzmaster. How much of their total sales does that model represent? A lot less than five percent, you can bet. The Mustang? The Jaguar? Do all of these models put together add up to five percent of their sales? Doubtful, yet somehow they can justify tooling up to run them down the production line.

How much of the global guitar market do Jackson capture? Or Hamer? Or BC Rich? Etc. Yet there's whole companies set up to cater for tiny percentages of the guitar-playing market. They presumably think it's worth it. And usually the big boys end up thinking it is worth their while buying up those tiny makers.

In fact, they get away with providing left-handers with a derisory selection of options because they think you have no choice but to make do.

Yet more and more small scale luthiers, for whom the costs of jigging and tooling are far more burdensome, find they can offer identical service to left-handers, and increasingly without charging a premium for it.

Conclusion: the big makers will go on treating left-handers badly till they get smart and start shopping elsewhere. Fender, Gibson and others already have all their models with left-handed jigs, CNC set-ups, etc. If they think they are losing you, they'll start running those jigs on their lines a little more generously. So, shop clever.


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evol04gt wrote:
i am also a lefty, and if i ever saw someone do this in front of me, i would be VERY upset and give them angry words.

very angry words. i will steal your guitar honestly... well...maybe not, but i would want to.


Hah....I wouldn't.

But, instaead I'd wait for the 10 minute "Oooh, lookie, I'm Hendrix" novelty to wear off and then offer to buy your used guitar from ya cheap. (Let's face it, leftie guitars aren't as easy to dump in terms of resale.)

PS: Although it's balanced, you really lose access to the higher frets. Why not just get a left handed bridge with the tremolo bar on the opposite side and call it good?


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evol04gt wrote:
wow... well a few years ago you really couldnt find anything lefty ever... and 100 more for a 300 dollar guitar is a little rediculous too..


and there are almost zero options compared to righties...





my traditional strat was 400 back in 96 and righty traditionals were 260..totally rediculous.



these days its not bad...but still..


all these lefties have made fender famous but no one cares to make the rare guitars in lefty...i dont need six standard strats or 2 options in the telecaster.. people want the weird stuff too..... even if its more money, just make it!!!!!


This is where I think a lot of guitar stores take big stupid pills prior to stocking that token leftie guitar on their wall...

If someone has already made the commitment to play left-handed, the implication is that they're willing to spend more money for a good guitar.

I don't see how it makes sense to keep stocking the low-end stuff. Granted, the high-dollar stuff would probably be more difficult to move, but there shouldn't be an issue with the midranged price stuff (600 to 1000 dollars.)

I look at it this way...although lefties don't have as....many options, thanks to the internet whatever is wanted...(to a degree) can be had...within reason.

(sigh...still no archtops out there in plentiful models...but anyways...)

I'm almost at the point where I'm about to hit up my stepfather to build me a custom body out of cherry wood with the neck ordered from elsewhere....might as well build my next guitar. (Or take one of those cheaper models and mod the hell out of it.)


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