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Post subject: Re: Serious Intonation issue
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:49 pm
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When I intonate, I refrain from using the twelfth fret harmonic at all. The harmonic is completely irrelevant in my view and it plays no part in my intonation process. I compare the open string to the fretted twelfth. The vast, vast, vast, VAST majority of the notes a typical guitarist plays are fretted notes, not harmonics. Harmonics are used as embellishments and then only once in a while (unless your name is Zakk) so they are irrelevant to the intonation process. The only thing of any significant concern is how the guitar is intoned while it is being fretted.

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stratele52 wrote:
stratele52 wrote:
To intonate , you use your ears or a "standard" guitar tuner ?
jellis4148 wrote:
I use a standard tuner.



Not enough accurate . you string could be intonnate and the tuner don't see it .

Try new string .
I hope that comment is entirely about dead strings. I hope you're not insinuating that the human ear is more accurate at determining the pitch of a note than a tuner.

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Post subject: Re: Serious Intonation issue
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:40 pm
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BMW-KTM wrote:
I hope that comment is entirely about dead strings. I hope you're not insinuating that the human ear is more accurate at determining the pitch of a note than a tuner.

I'm not the person you replied to, but yes,, the human air is more accurate than any tuner at getting the pitch right for a human ear.
Thing is, you don't always want it Hertz perfect. Normally, you want the bass a tad flatter,so it won't sound too sharp when you hit it hard. And you may want the G-B interval more towards just intonation than what equal temperament gives you, because it's almost jarring when done Hz-perfect. Or, if you use drop D, you may not want the two Ds to be in perfect unison to reduce sympathetic boost. Or any of countless other scenarios where the frequency the tuner wants isn't the one you want.

But yeah, a human ear is pretty darn good at discerning what sounds best for the human ear. Trusting a tuner without checking with your ear before playing is like trusting a recipe without tasting the food before serving.

That said, many guitar players appear to not be too good at tuning by ear. In which case a tuner is definitely an improvement.


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