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Post subject: Damaged Bridge Pin Hole
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:28 pm
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Hi guys, first poster here.

I recently got back a guitar I had left a friend's house for a long time (2 yrs) only to find that the time and pressure of leaving the strings on and him never playing it, led to stress and eventual cracking of the hole that holds the pin which secures the tremolo bridge. (attached picture)

The body of the guitar is a Squire Strat and I would like to replace the trem bridge with a hard-tail bridge.

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As you can see, the finish is cracked around the other securing pin hole.

What do I need to do to Install a hard-tail bridge in this body?


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Post subject: Re: Damaged Bridge Pin Hole
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:37 pm
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also, is there a way I could put a Tele Bridge in there?


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Post subject: Re: Damaged Bridge Pin Hole
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:46 pm
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Hi BradifusMaximus,

This didn't happen because the strings were left on and the guitar not used. This happened from some abuse, or accident, but your "friend" damaged your guitar, or it was damaged without his knowledge, but I doubt very seriously if it happened from lack of use. :!:

If you want to put a hard-tail bridge on it, you must fill the block hole and the post holes with wood (sand and refinish if you want), then drill holes for the new bridge. If it is a string-through-body type bridge, you will need some ferrules for the back. You might even want to fill the cavity in the back with another block of wood. It will take some skill to cut the wood to the exact size to fill the holes, and to drill the through holes straight and properly spaced.

It would probably be much easier, and maybe cheaper, to just get a new body, already configured for the bridge that you want, hard-tail or Tele. :idea:

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Post subject: Re: Damaged Bridge Pin Hole
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:55 pm
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when I removed the backplate, there was only three springs instead of five, is it possible that the added pressure would have done this?

The thing is I really want to keep the look of this body, I love the colour and finish.


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Post subject: Re: Damaged Bridge Pin Hole
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:10 pm
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"Added pressure"?

Did you leave it with three springs? If so, then no pressure was "added" on the posts. Most new Strats come with three springs when new, and are usually setup that way. Adding two more springs would not add any more pressure, because you would have to then loosen the spring claw screws to re-balance the pull on the strings to keep the bridge floating in it's previous position, so the pressure on the posts would be the same whether three or five springs. With five springs, the bridge would be stiffer when using the whammy bar, but no more pressure on the posts when at rest. Now, if you added two more springs and decked the bridge by tightening the claw screws, then there would be more pressure on the posts.

If you want to keep this body, you have a lot of work to do, or a lot of work to pay someone to do. You can't simply screw on another bridge of either type that you mentioned.

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Post subject: Re: Damaged Bridge Pin Hole
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:45 pm
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Shimmilou is correct, it is not that easy to replace your damaged body with another brigde. You would be better off repairing the body and replacing the old bridge back onto the guitar. YouTube is your friend with doing this, as well as Stewart MacDonalds they have lots of repair videos, etc.

http://www.stewmac.com/?gclid=CNbi1p-Mm ... MgodSREAxw

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Post subject: Re: Damaged Bridge Pin Hole
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:38 am
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It would be quicker to just get another Squier body, a used one will be less than the trouble and cost of trying to repair this one..

I agree with the above, the damage is from abuse, excessive pulling up and down of the whammy bar....
Guitars don't self destruct, they're inanimate objects, the string tension is constant but the spring tension is also constant and designed to neutralize the string pull.

They're really needs to be a lot of excessive force to do that damage....
You may want to rethink leaving guitars at your friends in the future... :shock: :roll:

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Post subject: Re: Damaged Bridge Pin Hole
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:37 am
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That guitar has been damaged by your friend or someone known to your friend, and it's been subjected to some quite violent abuse.
It isn't easy to tear a bridge post out of a guitar body.
Just be thankful it's only a Squier.

You need to make some choices about your friends - from the way your guitar has been treated they have no respect for it, and by extension they have little or no respect for you.


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Post subject: Re: Damaged Bridge Pin Hole
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:20 am
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The body can be fixed.
http://fingerlakesguitarrepair.com/fend ... trem-stud/


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Post subject: Re: Damaged Bridge Pin Hole
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:42 am
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Easy repair with drill, dowel, flush cut saw, glue and saw dust if needed.

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Post subject: Re: Damaged Bridge Pin Hole
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:07 pm
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This is not as easy a repair as suggested.
Due to the sheared off pieces, just redrilling and inserting a dowel will not be sufficient. Nor will filling in with wood putty afterwards...

As Otislakes linked up, that is the appropriate repair, but... Unless the OP has his own workshop with a drill press, bandsaw, sander and other needed hand tools, I would again suggest that searching for a replacement body will be the less costly option....
Either a new body thru Fender, or on the used market....
Also finding an appropriately stained / clear finish may be more expense than needed...
As a Squier, this guitar costs less than $400.00 thus the repair or replacement should not cost more than $150-$200.... That would be what I would charge to repair this guitar, including matching stain and final finish.... Not as easy as it seems.

Both Trem pivots need to be repaired, the cracked finish on the remaining posts indicates that there is major damage below the finish, wood separation is highly probable. To repair that entails drilling a small hole to inject a bonding agent, than clamping...
( That is only possible if there is only a crack, not a complete separation of the posts surrounding area )... The latter is more probable so at this point, the repair cost are going to exceed the value of the guitar. That is taking into account professional quality repair...

As such, a replacement body would be the quickest and least expensive solution...
OP if you take this route, make sure you are replacing the body with an appropriately sized body, made for the two point tremolo.....

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Post subject: Re: Damaged Bridge Pin Hole
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:43 pm
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53magnatone wrote:
This is not as easy a repair as suggested.
Due to the sheared off pieces, just redrilling and inserting a dowel will not be sufficient. Nor will filling in with wood putty afterwards...

As Otislakes linked up, that is the appropriate repair, but... Unless the OP has his own workshop with a drill press, bandsaw, sander and other needed hand tools, I would again suggest that searching for a replacement body will be the less costly option....
Either a new body thru Fender, or on the used market....
Also finding an appropriately stained / clear finish may be more expense than needed...
As a Squier, this guitar costs less than $400.00 thus the repair or replacement should not cost more than $150-$200.... That would be what I would charge to repair this guitar, including matching stain and final finish.... Not as easy as it seems.

Both Trem pivots need to be repaired, the cracked finish on the remaining posts indicates that there is major damage below the finish, wood separation is highly probable. To repair that entails drilling a small hole to inject a bonding agent, than clamping...
( That is only possible if there is only a crack, not a complete separation of the posts surrounding area )... The latter is more probable so at this point, the repair cost are going to exceed the value of the guitar. That is taking into account professional quality repair...

As such, a replacement body would be the quickest and least expensive solution...
OP if you take this route, make sure you are replacing the body with an appropriately sized body, made for the two point tremolo.....

Sure not hard. Even the link Otis66 posted shows a guy over drilling the hole and gluing in a Dowel and the other side may be ok with using thin Vis CA glue like Starbond. I have done a few of these on much more expensive guitars for people. Of course it has cost. My charge plus dealers top.

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Post subject: Re: Damaged Bridge Pin Hole
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:59 pm
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For me, the hard part would be filling in the block hole with a matching piece of wood, in order to mount the hard-tail or Tele bridge that the OP wanted, as well as trying to match the finish and making it look good. I wouldn't even want to do it to such an inexpensive body. $400 for this guitar seems unreasonably high. My guess would be more like $200, and the body itself certainly no more than $100 even on a more expensive Squier.

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Post subject: Re: Damaged Bridge Pin Hole
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:03 pm
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shimmilou wrote:
For me, the hard part would be filling in the block hole with a matching piece of wood, in order to mount the hard-tail or Tele bridge that the OP wanted, as well as trying to match the finish and making it look good. I wouldn't even want to do it to such an inexpensive body. $400 for this guitar seems unreasonably high. My guess would be more like $200, and the body itself certainly no more than $100 even on a more expensive Squier.

Thats why I have never been asked to do one on such a low cost instrument. You make sense.

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Post subject: Re: Damaged Bridge Pin Hole
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:13 pm
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i am not aware of lower priced Squier line being available in a two point Trem.
Classic's and similar quality are around the $400 range...

But regardless we all seem to be on the same page as this repair would far exceed the value of the guitar when properly done...

Body replacement being the most effective.

My own and ( IMHO ) would be to scrap the guitar for parts and look for an appropriate MIM for around $250 - $350....

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