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Post subject: Signature Strat Idea...
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:27 am
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I think since all 3 of Iron Maidens guitarists, Adrian Smith, Dave Murray, and Janick Gers, use Strats that there should be a trio of Iron Maiden Signature Strats....

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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:31 am
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Well, first of all, that's the problem these days with signatures. Too many people have them. People that are not truly worthy of a signature. Guitar companies are so took up by the almighty dollar that they will put anything out just to make that exra dollar.

There's artist out there from the early days that doens't even have a signature yet. Where's theirs at??? It use to be that the only time you got a signature was when you were really "somebody" and contributed an awful lot to the music world.

It use to be an honor to have your signature guitar put into production.

Now, any little punk that pops up and becomes famous within 5 years has a signature guitar on the market. It's ridiculous.

It seems like there is more signature models on the market than standard models.

Get this, Keifer Sutherland (he's an actor, everybody should know him) has a signature guitar with Gibson. Just because he plays alittle and is a big time Gibson collector and enthusiast. HE DOESN'T DESERVE A SIGNATURE. But since he can be a money maker for Gibson, Gibson gave him one.

All this is a big disgrace to "REAL" musicians who have paid their dues and made their mark to becoming authentic "LEGENDS". They're the ones who deserve signatures, noone else.

Iron Maiden? I'm not into them, don't care for that type of music. I don't know whether one of them is entitled to a signature or not, much less every member of the group. They will probably get one sooner or later, for marketing purposes only of course.


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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:43 am
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thats exactly true lots of guitar players out there dont deserve a signature modle number one alot dont have a signature sound

clapton,srv,beck,hendrix and carlos santana jimmy page,brian may, all have a signature sound dont for get alvin lee or joe perry or muddy waters,robert cray and buddy guy u know its them when u hear the guitar but i cant tell tom delonge from billy joe armstong from the good charlotte guy they all sound alike and to me what dose cranking an amp to 11 and playing 3 chords doing cept annoying me its just not deserving of a signature geeter

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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:32 pm
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The idea that someone "deserves" a signature guitar is kind of a junior-high concept.

Do you think these things are like museum pieces, or like the Oscar? They're not. They are simply a way of naming a collection of features that are associated with a given player. To sell, these have to be a collection of features that people want.

For example, the much-derided (online, anyway) Tom DeLonge Strat. This was not created in any way to "honor" Tom DeLonge or make everybody notice what a great guitar player he is... it was simply a way of capturing the attention of the kind of young player that was interested in playing guitar because of people like Tom DeLonge by offering them a set of features they'd want in a Fender guitar.

"... so took up by the almighty dollar..." You're kidding, right? Do you think guitar companies were started for altruistic reasons? Do you have some kind of hallucination that Leo Fender designed these guitars and amps because he loved you and wanted you to be happy? He did it to turn a buck. That's why companies exist.

A Stratocaster exists because of the pursuit of the almighty dollar, and no other reason. Signature guitars are just another toll in Fender's box of marketing tools... all designed to keep Fender in existence.


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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:52 pm
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Gravity Jim wrote:

Do you have some kind of hallucination that Leo Fender designed these guitars and amps because he loved you and wanted you to be happy?



Well, yeah, LOL, that's exactly what he did. Do alittle research and you'll find out that he was constantly changing designs here and there to give "THE GUITARIST" what "THEY" wanted. He was always looking for feedback on his stuff from the people that used them. And of course Leo Fender, like everybody else, has to make a living. He went about it the right way with the consumer in mind and created a great company that's profitable because he gave "THE GUITARIST" what they wanted.


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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:56 pm
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I think the whole "Artist" and Signature" model thing has been done to death. BUT it sells guitars and that is what a guitar company is supposed to do.

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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:15 pm
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i'd rather not see too many signature guitars unless the artist truly plays the guitar with meaning and everyone knows them for that guitar.... i don't like the idea of billy joe armstrong getting a signature with gibson because its pretty much just a les paul jr. with his name on it... i don't think its worth the price hike they gave it.... i don't find so much the pete wentz of fall out boy sig bass that squier put out because he wanted it to be affordable to the consumer.... but the artist sigs sell guitars, and or a lot more, so i don't see why they won't stop making them, even though some of them are quesitonable as to the validity of the signature model


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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:44 am
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I have been following this topic a little bit. Yes, Leo Fender started out his company to make a living, but he also wanted people to get good quality instruments. He was forever making changes. The Strat wouldn't have been made if the players hadn't asked for changes. If it was all about money then Fender guitars wouldn't have truss rods in the neck. The very first prototype teles didn't until someone (a guitar player) said, "You might want to change that." Leo had no knowledge about music. He was an engineer. So he took advice everywhere he could get it. From the source.
It wasn't until CBS bought the company and started making changes that things got hairy. It didn't happen over night and it wasn't on perpose. The people at CBS just didn't know guitars and the people who did got tired of being ignored and left Fender. It wasn't till the late 80s when the current owners took over that everything got fixed. I don't always agree with with everything that Fender does and I'd like them to pay more attention to their Mexican line. I've been running into a lot of them that have really bad fret jobs. Sharp edges suck. I'm starting to think that quality control is starting to slip again.
As to signature models, well I think that it has more to do with a player contacting Fender or Fender contacting the player. This is how the Clapton Strat got started. Eric went to Fender and asked for a guitar that was kind of like one of the Stat Elites that he played. He loved the sound of the pickups. He told them what he wanted and they made him examples. He picked what he wanted (just like a custom shop guitar). He then ran into Jeff Beck and said, "Fender is making guitars for me. You should ask them to do the same."
The Buddy Guy Strat (pocka dot ones) was easy. There aren't too many like that. The other Buddy Buy Signature models (sun burst and blonde ones) are just like Eric's except he kept the gold Lace Sensars. I've heard the sound track to "Rush" and I hear Buddy Guy playing a Clapton Strat. I think that maybe Buddy liked the sound that Eric was getting and asked Fender to make some like it.
Bottom line: It's not always about money and there isn't a magic formula for signature Fenders.

I agree. Read more. They make books for a reason. I consider myself a Fender historian and learn as much as I can about Fender guitars. I'm always availible to anyone who has questions concerning Fender guitars or Fender History. There are a lot myths out there. Be careful when doing your research. I had one guy (guitar store owner) try to tell me once that there was no such thing as a '62 tele custom. The problem is in the title. Fender has "The Tele custom" (with humbuckers. A later model) and "The Tele custom"
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:43 am
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If you would want a guitar with those features, just go to the custom shop. I agree that there are too many signature series out there, but I think Fender's theory on a lot of them is that if an artist is popular enough with players, they will buy that guitar hoping it will give them some of that artists "magic". I own an Eric Clapton signature series not because I like Eric ( I do), but a lot of the features of the guitar like the V neck and midboost are features I would want on a strat anyway. I've personalized it further by putting a push-pull pot on the guitar to tie in the back pickup in any combination, primarily for a front and back pickup combo.


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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:34 pm
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If Pete Wentz can have one, why not Iron Maiden? Hell, if Pete Wentz has one, I should have one :?

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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:25 pm
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Maybe they dont want a Sig strat.


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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:40 am
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As far as Fender playing Bass players, I would suggest Roger Glover ( Deep Purple ) and Andy Hess ( Govt. Mule ).

And next in line for a signature Strat should be Kenny Wayne Shepard.

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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:59 am
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Isn't there a Maiden strat out there? I'm customizing my strat and it seems Maiden beat me to it in the direction where I wanna go.. ^^
But I'm just gonna go just a little more crazy than they did!


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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:59 pm
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I have to agree with most here, signature guitars are just marketing tools and there's nothing wrong with that.

This post got me to thinking.....has there ever been a George Harrison strat? He used them an awful lot. I'd be willing to bet his estate would be open to letting Fender base one off his favorite strat.

Just a random thought.

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I recall reading awhile back about a signature Nile Rodgers "Hitmaker" Signature Strat. Is that a rumor ?

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