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Post subject: Clapton Mid Boost with SS amp
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:47 pm
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Hi gus! i have a strat with Clapton's Mid Boost kit and i'm considering to buy a Fender Champion 100. Do you guys know how Mid Boost sound in a SS amp? i have a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe and sound great...but i'm looking for an amp to work every night.


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Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:34 pm
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elciosouza wrote:
i have a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe and sound great...but i'm looking for an amp to work every night.


So your Fender HRD doesn't work every night?

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Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:56 pm
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+1 to what T2 said. Tube amps work every night, they just require a bit of maintenance to keep running smoothly.

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Post subject: Re: Clapton Mid Boost with SS amp
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:51 pm
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GilgaFrank wrote:
+1 to what T2 said. Tube amps work every night, they just require a bit of maintenance to keep running smoothly.


here in Brazil maintenance is expensive...is better to do some but not any gig. that's why i'm looking for a SS amp...but i need to know if mid boost sounds nice on it. if it will only be a boost of volume or it'll give more overdrive


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Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:05 pm
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if you don't have the money for a twinolux get a blues deluxe r.i. . it WILL get the job done. just change the pre amp tubes to 12ax7wa(i'll likely get some crap for my recomendation but i own the proof).12ax7wc for a more modern clapton sound. the bdri amp is no where near the twinolux but if your on a budget and like to play around with your amp then that is the way to go because of the amount of drive.


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Post subject: Re: Clapton Mid Boost with SS amp
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:39 pm
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elciosouza wrote:
GilgaFrank wrote:
+1 to what T2 said. Tube amps work every night, they just require a bit of maintenance to keep running smoothly.


here in Brazil maintenance is expensive...is better to do some but not any gig. that's why i'm looking for a SS amp...but i need to know if mid boost sounds nice on it. if it will only be a boost of volume or it'll give more overdrive


A couple things...which solid state amp would help, but in general, the boost is NOT going to add overdrive to a SS amp. Also, if your SS amp goes down during a gig, you are NOT going to be able to fix it...A tube amp that has a tube go during a show, if you carry spares (you should) then you pop a new one in and finish the show. If it were me I would stay with the amp you have!

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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:58 pm
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thanks for your help and advice guys! merry christmas and happy new year!


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Post subject: Re: Clapton Mid Boost with SS amp
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:16 pm
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elciosouza wrote:
thanks for your help and advice guys! merry christmas and happy new year!


Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you too! Hope we helped.

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Post subject: Re: Clapton Mid Boost with SS amp
Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:11 am
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The boost circuit adds midrange. The intent of the the circuit is to impart a humbucker tone to a single coil guitar. Clapton opted for a 25db boost when his signature series was finalized. Distortion and overdrive will be more a result of what the gains stages in your amp provide. At limited volumes, you won't get this effect even with the boost full on. But when you crank it, and then dial in the boost, the effect will certainly be augmented.

BTW: To add a thought to T2's comment, if you like solid state, and would carry along something compact, with punch, as a backup, have a look at ZT's "Club" amp.

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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:39 am
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ZZDoc wrote:
Clapton opted for a 25db boost when his signature series was finalized.


He also opted for a plug-powered on-off switching system as he would play active all time, that's why the mid boost bypass switch has been removed.

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The intent of the the circuit is to impart a humbucker tone to a single coil guitar.


Not necessarily.

The MDX works equally fine with humbuckers as well with single coils.

In the case of humbuckers, the circuit supercharges the overall signal with more mids, resulting to a screaming fat lead sound.

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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:16 pm
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chromeface wrote:
Not necessarily.The MDX works equally fine with humbuckers as well with single coils.In the case of humbuckers, the circuit supercharges the overall signal with more mids, resulting to a screaming fat lead sound.

[Hmmph!! Take a deep breath.....let it out slowly....and begin].......

Your observations notwithstanding, we recall that the original intent of the midboost was to supplement the active circuit single coils. This beginning in the Elite series guitars. What Eric wanted was the energy of a humbucker out of his new Stratocaster, hence the nod to the 25db MDX. I hope I have clarified the intent of my original remarks.

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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 3:59 pm
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Well to perfectly accurate here, Clapton wanted a "Compressed Tone", i.e., more like a humbuckers tone, when he wanted it. The first prototype versions only had 12db of boost (from the elites), then it was upped to 21db, but Clapton kept asking for "More Compression" so they ended up with the 25db boost to meet his requirements...I have paraphrased his words hear except the quotations.

FWIW.

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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:58 pm
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T2Stratman wrote:
Well to perfectly accurate here, Clapton wanted a "Compressed Tone", i.e., more like a humbuckers tone, when he wanted it. The first prototype versions only had 12db of boost (from the elites), then it was upped to 21db, but Clapton kept asking for "More Compression" so they ended up with the 25db boost to meet his requirements...I have paraphrased his words hear except the quotations.....FWIW......T2

Yep...all those sources we've cited over and over again...yet we still don't know why there's a wood block stopping the trem. I'm wondering if the MDX in my red prototype puts out 21db or 25db. :?: Doesn't sound much different at full than my '89 Pewter.

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Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:09 pm
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The Elite Telecaster sported a pair of humbuckers and the MDX boost circuit.

Recently Fender made a MIM FSR Telecaster with Vintage Noiseless pickups and the TBX/MDX circuitry.


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...yet we still don't know why there's a wood block stopping the trem...


:lol:

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