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Post subject: I Desire A Guitar Without Whammy Bar
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:08 am
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Fellow Guitarists,

I am looking to purchase a new guitar, but am finding most of them have whammy bars, a part of the guitar I do not use with my style of playing.

Any idea which Fender would be a good way to go with out emptying the bank?

B Pullis 8)


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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:20 am
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you can get a fender strat or telecaster that has a hardtail bridge. Or you can get any fender with a whammy bar and just put a bolt(can get put in a at guitar shop) down in the hole where the whammy bar would go and it would stay put!


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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:43 pm
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Clapton blocks all his trems so that is an option. I think the hardtails have a different sonic air to them. Not bad nor good, just different. I think every guitar player should have 1 tele in the herd.


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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:57 pm
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Thanks for the input btwade and chris63. I am looking forward to that new strat. Putting the cash away.


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Post subject: Re: Shopping for New Guitar without Whammy
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:43 pm
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Barry Pullis wrote:
Fellow Guitarists,

I am looking to purchase a new guitar, but am finding most of them have whammy bars, a part of the guitar I do not use with my style of playing.

Any idea which Fender would be a good way to go with out emptying the bank?

B Pullis 8)


For the Stratocaster there is an American Standard and two versions of the Robert Cray guitar all of which are non-trem. You can review these instruments at the Fender website and, for price point, consult the price list available on the web as well. These are list, not street, but will give you an idea of the range.

Consider beginning your journey with a CAREFULLY CHOSEN Squier Stratocaster. You can have the look and the feel at a mind boggling low price.

As the previous contributor notes, the Fender tremolo block can be stopped as is done with the Clapton. Mine are set up in such fashion. A measured block of wood is placed between the tremolo block and the wall of the tremolo cavity rout. Have a good guitar tech do this for you.

If you elect this approach take the tremolo arm off the guitar and set it aside in a safe place in the event you decide to trade up. I would strongly advise not placing anything into the hole tapped for the tremolo arm. Just live with it.

Clapton is said to prefer his approach to non-trem setup because he feels that the guitar has a superior sonic quality to the hard tail.

Someday you may find your way to having the Custom Shop build a nontrem guitar to your specifications. Yes, those guitars are a considerable financial investment which, if you are able to support such, is the only way to go.

Let us know what you end up with.

Enjoy!!


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Try a Robert Cray model Strat. They are nice, and come with a hard tail bridge stock.

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hard tail bridge is your friend

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Or you could just take any strat and put five springs on the block and tighten the claw.


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TriumphTune wrote:
Or you could just take any strat and put five springs on the block and tighten the claw.


Woah!! - now that's a wild idea!


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I have a USA Standard strat that used to belong to Neil Diamond with cigarette burns and all. He had it converted(a wood block inserted where the trem used to be) into a hardtail. It plays and sounds fantastic. If I need trem I just use my other strat.


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paisley strat wrote:
Try a Robert Cray model Strat. They are nice, and come with a hard tail bridge stock.
I second the Robert Cray Strat.

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FirstMeasure wrote:
paisley strat wrote:
Try a Robert Cray model Strat. They are nice, and come with a hard tail bridge stock.
I second the Robert Cray Strat.



The man will have to be satisfied with the neck profile, and the electronics. There are two versions, a CS and a production line which I expect is an MIM.

This guitar is rarely found 'on the wall.' The MIM might need to be ordered to be auditioned, and a willing dealer to do so. I suspect that CS likely wouldn't be built unless paid for.

If you take the time to look carefully, you will observe that the major portion of stock 'on the wall' does not consist of high end product. Keep this in mind when shopping. It goes to the marketing strategy of the dealer and their relationship with the company.

Small outlets often cannot get Fender. They can't move enough product.


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zzdoc wrote:
FirstMeasure wrote:
paisley strat wrote:
Try a Robert Cray model Strat. They are nice, and come with a hard tail bridge stock.
I second the Robert Cray Strat.



The man will have to be satisfied with the neck profile, and the electronics. There are two versions, a CS and a production line which I expect is an MIM.

This guitar is rarely found 'on the wall.' The MIM might need to be ordered to be auditioned, and a willing dealer to do so. I suspect that CS likely wouldn't be built unless paid for.

If you take the time to look carefully, you will observe that the major portion of stock 'on the wall' does not consist of high end product. Keep this in mind when shopping. It goes to the marketing strategy of the dealer and their relationship with the company.

Small outlets often cannot get Fender. They can't move enough product.
Living in a Small town with no Music Store sometimes makes me forget that folks rely on them still. I have to order everything on line, so I have the whole world at my fingertips. Most Reputable On Line Stores have excelent return policies, although patience is a virtue tested in this process.

Funny thing is, a lot of people will say that they wouldn't buy a guitar they hadn't played. I can't imagine buying a guitar off the wall, where any idiot can bang away on it before you can protect it. Factory Fresh is the only way for me.

Also, I was refering to the MIM Robert Cray Strat.

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FirstMeasure wrote:
zzdoc wrote:
FirstMeasure wrote:
paisley strat wrote:
Try a Robert Cray model Strat. They are nice, and come with a hard tail bridge stock.
I second the Robert Cray Strat.



The man will have to be satisfied with the neck profile, and the electronics. There are two versions, a CS and a production line which I expect is an MIM.

This guitar is rarely found 'on the wall.' The MIM might need to be ordered to be auditioned, and a willing dealer to do so. I suspect that CS likely wouldn't be built unless paid for.

If you take the time to look carefully, you will observe that the major portion of stock 'on the wall' does not consist of high end product. Keep this in mind when shopping. It goes to the marketing strategy of the dealer and their relationship with the company.

Small outlets often cannot get Fender. They can't move enough product.
Living in a Small town with no Music Store sometimes makes me forget that folks rely on them still. I have to order everything on line, so I have the whole world at my fingertips. Most Reputable On Line Stores have excelent return policies, although patience is a virtue tested in this process.

Funny thing is, a lot of people will say that they wouldn't buy a guitar they hadn't played. I can't imagine buying a guitar off the wall, where any idiot can bang away on it before you can protect it. Factory Fresh is the only way for me.

Also, I was refering to the MIM Robert Cray Strat.



I support your position on 'off the wall' purchases, and that has been my philosophy except in four rare occasions with two exceptionally fine used instruments, and twonew one which has recently been displayed and were mint.


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zzdoc wrote:
FirstMeasure wrote:
zzdoc wrote:
FirstMeasure wrote:
paisley strat wrote:
Try a Robert Cray model Strat. They are nice, and come with a hard tail bridge stock.
I second the Robert Cray Strat.



The man will have to be satisfied with the neck profile, and the electronics. There are two versions, a CS and a production line which I expect is an MIM.

This guitar is rarely found 'on the wall.' The MIM might need to be ordered to be auditioned, and a willing dealer to do so. I suspect that CS likely wouldn't be built unless paid for.

If you take the time to look carefully, you will observe that the major portion of stock 'on the wall' does not consist of high end product. Keep this in mind when shopping. It goes to the marketing strategy of the dealer and their relationship with the company.

Small outlets often cannot get Fender. They can't move enough product.
Living in a Small town with no Music Store sometimes makes me forget that folks rely on them still. I have to order everything on line, so I have the whole world at my fingertips. Most Reputable On Line Stores have excelent return policies, although patience is a virtue tested in this process.

Funny thing is, a lot of people will say that they wouldn't buy a guitar they hadn't played. I can't imagine buying a guitar off the wall, where any idiot can bang away on it before you can protect it. Factory Fresh is the only way for me.

Also, I was refering to the MIM Robert Cray Strat.



I support your position on 'off the wall' purchases, and that has been my philosophy except in four rare occasions with two exceptionally fine used instruments, and twonew one which has recently been displayed and were mint.
There heve been a couple guitars I should have bought when I found them in a store. An Epihone Double Neck SG that played better than all the rest I've tried, and an Epiphone Masterbilt Acoustic that was better than any I'd heard ot tried. They were both gone by the time I decided to get them.

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