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Post subject: Volume knob - acting like pseudo-tone knob
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:13 am
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Agh I just installed Custom 69s and I'm playing now in more depth and the volume knob doesn't work quite right.

It does SOMETHING, it seems like it acts as a tone knob from 10 to about 7 (not rly turning down volume), and then from 7-0 does nothing.

Has anyone had this problem before?


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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:23 pm
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fenderchiq wrote:
Agh I just installed Custom 69s and I'm playing now in more depth and the volume knob doesn't work quite right.

It does SOMETHING, it seems like it acts as a tone knob from 10 to about 7 (not rly turning down volume), and then from 7-0 does nothing.

Has anyone had this problem before?



Hard to say without it here.
Only advice I got is always remember to turn all pots to zero when soldering on them.
If you cooked it you need to replace it.
Strat wiring is simple so you should have no problem.
Double check that your ground lug is properly seated on the pot. it can be done with a meter.

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Post subject: Re: Volume knob - acting like pseudo-tone knob
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:16 pm
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Ugh, I had no idea pots were suppose to be at zero.... ?

What happens if they aren't at zero when you solder them?


I didnt pay attention to this I just went for it. They may have been at zero, maybe not?


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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:10 pm
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fenderchiq wrote:
Ugh, I had no idea pots were suppose to be at zero.... ?

What happens if they aren't at zero when you solder them?


I didnt pay attention to this I just went for it. They may have been at zero, maybe not?



most of the time nothing sometimes a bad spot gets burnt on them.
Now that CTS are made in China I have gotten a couple bad ones.
I actually had to remove the kettle and there are two brass wipers inside.
I had to reshape them so they traveled correctly
Quality of everything is going to hell man NAFTA sucks.

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Post subject: Re: Volume knob - acting like pseudo-tone knob
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:22 pm
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If you can post detailed photos of all your wiring.
it should have been straight forward so either something is faulty or the wiring is not quite right.... :D


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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:41 pm
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If you can post detailed photos of all your wiring.
it should have been straight forward so either something is faulty or the wiring is not quite right.... :D



Yeah I had it just last week on a CTS 250 Fender pot they are made in Taiwan now not China sorry.
I did a Texas Special job for a guy and pot was bad it was wipers I opened it and bent them away from each other they were touching.

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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:16 pm
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Donny,

If one side of the pot is zeroed out, isn't the other side of the pot maxed out? So why would it matter if it was zeroed out or not? I'm not questioning your theory, just trying to make sense of it.

I would suspect a cold solder joint or maybe a fault in the wiring. Pictures would definitely help.

Good luck.

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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:37 pm
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Yeah sorry Donny I meant for the original op to post photos
Anything is possible until the solution is found. Definitely the two mentioned above are high on the list ..... could even be a broken carbon track but lets try to rule out the wiring first :D


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Post subject: Re: Volume knob - acting like pseudo-tone knob
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:43 pm
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jimmy_james wrote:
Yeah sorry Donny I meant for the original op to post photos
Anything is possible until the solution is found .....could even be a broken carbon track but lets try to rule out the wiring first :D




No worries man you didn't harsh my gig. :)
I was just jabbering.

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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:47 pm
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Thanks Donny all cool! :D


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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:52 pm
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Donny,

If one side of the pot is zeroed out, isn't the other side of the pot maxed out? So why would it matter if it was zeroed out or not? I'm not questioning your theory, just trying to make sense of it.

I would suspect a cold solder joint or maybe a fault in the wiring. Pictures would definitely help.

Good luck.



Without seeing whats going on I cant be sure, I could probably have it up an running in no time for him Im sure but...
Let me explain that deal.
I had an old solder gun of grandpa's and you could actually see an arc of electricity very small.
So anyway I was buying pots left and right because I was cooking them with it.
The thing worked great it was an ancient craftsman, got very hot.
I complained about Grandpa's solder gun cooking pots and an old timer told me to turn my pots to zero when soldering on them.
Well I haven't cooked any new pots since.
Now I don't know if he was right or I been lucky because I got a new iron.
I don't know man lol.
But I burnt a bad spot in the travel all the time when doing a kettle ground on the volume.
Now that I do that I never have cooked another one.

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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 6:05 pm
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I'll re-open the thing and post some pics ASAP. thanks for all your help.


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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:06 pm
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I hope these pictures are good enough, please let me know and I can take more.

There is a fuzzy thing to the left of the orange cap, it is a small piece of cloth wire that I removed from the pickups to connect the two tone pots (from the 1st prong of the neck tone to the middle prong of the bridge tone)


Also, for the pot solder joints I mostly see guitars have only one gigantic glob with all the wires connected, I didnt know what the technique for doing this was so I did multiple globs on the same pot (as you can see the volume has 5 separate globs for the pot joints).


Once again thank you so much guys for your help.


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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:44 pm
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Bend the lug and solder it to the kettle of the pot on the volume pot.
Were the ground wire is its the problem you didn't ground the pot to itself on lug 3

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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:55 pm
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See how lug 3 on the volume pot is bent back and soldered to the kettle of the pot here?
You must do that to complete the volume circuit.

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