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Post subject: no truss rod?
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:06 am
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Hi, I just bought my first stat :D A 2001 olympic white maple neck in mint condition. The problem is that the neck needs some adjustment and there doesn't seem to be any truss rod at the headstock. There's a hole for it...but, from what I can tell nothing for the allen wrench to grab on to.

I know early strats have the truss rod at the other end where it meets the body nad before I attempt to remove it I would like to know if you guys know how this model is set up.

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Post subject: Re: no truss rod?
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:11 am
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Martin - there are currently over 70 different Strat models, and most of them came in Olympic white at some point. About half are "modern spec" and have the truss rod adjustment at the headstock, the rest are "vintage spec" and have it at the neck heel.

If you post a photo or provide a more detailed description we should be able to tell you which model you have and where the truss rod adjustment is located on your Strat.


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Post subject: Re: no truss rod?
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:36 am
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Sorry for not being specific enough, here are 4 different pictures on my dropbox. Glad if anyone can enlighten me.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1755003/bild.JPG
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1755003/bild2.JPG
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1755003/bild3.JPG
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1755003/bild4.JPG


edit: it is a 2001 USA made strat and it has the micro tilt hole on the neck plate


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Post subject: Re: no truss rod?
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:32 am
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Have you tried poking around down the truss rod hole with a darning needle?, I ask because either someone has botched up the allen screw hole and rounded it off, or there is something (maybe polish or buffing compound) down the hole, obscuring the end of the truss rod

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Post subject: Re: no truss rod?
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:44 am
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Yeah I poked around i little bit and got some dusty $@!& out of there and actually managed to get the allen wrench into the truss rod. Wonder why someone would clog it with dust and crap... :roll:


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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:14 pm
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Your truss rod nut looks fubared, if you bought this from a store take it back.


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Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:09 pm
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Bought it really cheap from a online auction. After getting rid of the stuff in the hole I was able to adjust the truss rod and straighten out the neck.


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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:02 am
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Just make sure you clean it out good and get that allen wrench deep into the Truss nut so as not to strip the nut little by little each time you adjust it.

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Post subject: Re: no truss rod?
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:41 am
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Congrats on the new Strat iMartin, play some Funk into it! :D

While the truss rod is still adjustable now, it might not last. Someday you or the next owner will need it and it might not be there.

This is the best time to see if the adjustment nut can be replaced without much expense.

Here's StewMac's take on it: http://www.stewmac.com/tsarchive/ts0083.html

There are a lot of Web tutorials and comment.

If you're not comfortable with the job, take it to get an estimate of repair from a couple of reliable sources.

That's my $0.02!

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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:32 am
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Are you using metric allen wrenches? You need an imperial one or your nut is busted, chewed away.

It's a bi-flex, make sure you are not stuck in the in-between position where nut is neither pulling or pushing


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Post subject: Re: no truss rod?
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:58 am
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Thank you for all your input and answers. I used the allen wrench that was included in the case, I was happy to see that even if it is a used 2001 model every single piece of accessory was in the case.

I'm a bit new-be with the bi-flex system and all. I'll take it to my local music store where I know the guitar-tech and see what they have to say. The neck didn't need much adjusting, just a slight concave shape to it.


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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:36 am
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It's always a good practice, whenever adjusting the Truss Rod, to first loosen it a quarter turn before tightening it.

This is especially true if it's your first time adjusting a particular guitar.

The reason is that the Rod may already be tightened down fully, and further tightening can bend the Rod or strip the Allen Head.

Backing it off a quarter turn gives you a reference so you can return it to it's original position if need be. Also, turning past the original position from a quarter turn back will impart less torque to the parts than starting in the original position because you'll already have eveything loosened up and turning.

Adopting this practice can save Headaches, Heartaches and Money !

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