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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:22 pm
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orvilleowner is right - Leo and George Fullerton designed the 3-bolt neck attachment, micro-tilt and bullet truss rod. And they used that same design on their Music Man guitars and finally their G&L guitars.


That was Arjay who mentioned that (though I did know that too!).

Here are a couple more pics, one showing the dings.
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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:56 pm
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orvilleowner wrote:
Here are a couple more pics, one showing the dings.
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Merely "battle scars" of honor, OO.

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:25 pm
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Merely "battle scars" of honor, OO.

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Some were less than honorable bonehead moves.

Hmmm no one asked me what I paid for it. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:57 pm
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orvilleowner wrote:
Retroverbial wrote:
Merely "battle scars" of honor, OO.

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Some were less than honorable bonehead moves.

Hmmm no one asked me what I paid for it. :wink:

Well....as my dearest old friend and bandmate Ken would love to say...."OK!" "I'll play your silly game." "How much did you pay for it" :?:

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:01 pm
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Thank you Doc, you're a great straight man.

I got into a bidding war for it. Well, more like a bidding skirmish. I had to pay $275 for it, a bit more than I really wanted to pay.

The lowest I paid for a used Strat back then (35 years ago) was $225.

Decent investments it turned out.

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:26 pm
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Thank you Doc, you're a great straight man.

Any time. I can be quite the amicable type. 8)

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:11 pm
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John C wrote:
orvilleowner is right - Leo and George Fullerton designed the 3-bolt neck attachment, micro-tilt and bullet truss rod. And they used that same design on their Music Man guitars and finally their G&L guitars - George worked for Leo's design shop, CLF Research, in the days when CLF produced the Music Man instruments; he became a principal of the company when it became G&L.

The 3-bolt is not a bad design; it was poorly executed by CBS (and the execution got worse as the 70s progressed).


Leo added the 3 bolt micro tilt and the large headstock to the stratocaster before he left Fender. those were his last contributions to the Stratocaster.
Alot of people attribute it to CBS but it was all Leo. I think they were the best strats but Im biased :)

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:20 pm
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The 3 bolts were the best? I have a couple of them, never had any problems with them, love them like any other, but I can't say the best.

I know what I'd say the worst were.

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:45 pm
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I know what I'd say the worst were.

Oh...do tell us....please, please!! :wink:

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:55 pm
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Leo added the 3 bolt micro tilt and the large headstock to the stratocaster before he left Fender. those were his last contributions to the Stratocaster.
Alot of people attribute it to CBS but it was all Leo. I think they were the best strats but Im biased :)


Leo did nothing of the sort. He sold all of his interest in Fender Electric Instrument Company to CBS on 4 January 1965.

The large headstock was not introduced to the Stratocaster line until December of 1966 and was likely Don Randall's idea -- it was initially a feature on the new Mustang and Jaguar models.

It wasn't until some six years after Leo's formal departure that the 3-bolt neck with the micro-tilt adjustment found its way to the production line. They were however his developments, created after he formed CLF Research -- a quasi arm of FMI's R&D department. They were his final contributions to FMI.

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:01 pm
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donnycraven wrote:
Leo added the 3 bolt micro tilt and the large headstock to the stratocaster before he left Fender. those were his last contributions to the Stratocaster.
Alot of people attribute it to CBS but it was all Leo. I think they were the best strats but Im biased :)


Leo did nothing of the sort. He sold all of his interest in Fender Electric Instrument Company to CBS on 4 January 1965.

The large headstock was not introduced to the Stratocaster line until December of 1966 and was likely Don Randall's idea -- it was initially a feature on the new Mustang and Jaguar models.

It wasn't until some six years after Leo's formal departure that the 3-bolt neck with the micro-tilt adjustment found its way to the production line. They were however his developments, created after he formed CLF Research -- a quasi arm of FMI's R&D department. They were his final contributions to FMI.

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Wrong it was all Leo.

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:03 pm
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orvilleowner wrote:
The 3 bolts were the best? I have a couple of them, never had any problems with them, love them like any other, but I can't say the best.

I know what I'd say the worst were.



I only think they are best because my first Fender Strat was a 1976.
No other reason than fond old memories

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:03 pm
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orvilleowner wrote:
I know what I'd say the worst were.

Oh...do tell us....please, please!! :wink:


The ~1982 editions that had the output jack on the pickguard is the lowest point in Strat history IMO. CBS had about given up, were looking for a buyer, and quality was at its worst. Duchossoir seems to endorse this view in his Strat book.

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:04 pm
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donnycraven wrote:
Leo added the 3 bolt micro tilt and the large headstock to the stratocaster before he left Fender. those were his last contributions to the Stratocaster.
Alot of people attribute it to CBS but it was all Leo. I think they were the best strats but Im biased :)


Leo did nothing of the sort. He sold all of his interest in Fender Electric Instrument Company to CBS on 4 January 1965.

The large headstock was not introduced to the Stratocaster line until December of 1966 and was likely Don Randall's idea -- it was initially a feature on the new Mustang and Jaguar models.

It wasn't until some six years after Leo's formal departure that the 3-bolt neck with the micro-tilt adjustment found its way to the production line. They were however his developments, created after he formed CLF Research -- a quasi arm of FMI's R&D department. They were his final contributions to FMI.

Arjay



Just so you know I cant take credit for the statement, I pretty much memorized the tour :)

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:15 pm
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FYI... Fender Japan made a 22-fret version of that bare-bones jack Strat which lasted until 1986.


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