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Post subject: A Strat Story
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:45 pm
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I bought this Strat 35 years ago this summer. It has a neck date of JAN 71. It has a four bolt neck, a bit before the change to the micro-tilt and bullet truss rod. It has a two piece maple neck (maple fingerboard, no skunk stripe).

The dude I bought it from also had a left handed black Les Paul Custom (he wasn't selling that). He played left handed, but with the strings strung righty. Like Albert King. So I was able to play it right away. He (Stephen Dillon, IIRC, where are you now?) showed me his original receipt for it.

My mods include 3 straplocks and a fret job. I had a Pyramid high output pickup on it for a time, but it's back to stock now.

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Of course it's for the Hendrix vibe. That's the story.

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:16 pm
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How about the bridge, OO?

Separate steel trem block and stamped-steel saddles?

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:14 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
How about the bridge, OO?

Separate steel trem block and stamped-steel saddles?

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Yes!

And I'm reminded that I once broke off a trem bar in the block. I had it drilled out and fixed with a Heli-Coil.

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:01 am
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Nice original Leo's strat , not a CBS designed


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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:04 am
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stratele52 wrote:
Nice original Leo's strat , not a CBS designed


Any Strat built after the 4th of January 1965 is a CBS Strat.

OO's guitar is a '71 model.

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:24 am
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stratele52 wrote:
Nice original Leo's strat , not a CBS designed


Any Strat built after the 4th of January 1965 is a CBS Strat.

OO's guitar is a '71 model.

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I know but late 60 and eraly 71 they kept Leo desing , not CBS desing with truss rod bullet .

That what I write " not a CBS design"


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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:31 am
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That "truss rod bullet" was but one half of the Strat neck's re-design, the other being the 3-bolt neck with the micro-tilt adjustment.

And who do you think held the patent for the micro-tilt feature?

That's right, mon amí......Leo Fender himself.

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:08 am
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I just said this guitar was built like all Fender Strat when Leo was the owner of Fender.


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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:22 am
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You and David Gilmour may something in common. Phil Taylor writes:,"A standard black Fender Stratocaster CBS-era model, it had a white pickguard, a maple neck with a 'maple cap' finger board and a large headstock. There are no original dates to be found anywhere on the guitar. Opinions vary on the dates that Fender made changes, but it appears to have been built with parts from both 1968 and 1969[the current neck is not original and the later pot date codes are from 1971]. The guitar was, in all probability constructed in 1969 and then purchased in May 1970 by David from Manny's Music. The original serial number 266936 is from the 1960 period. :wink: The guitar was originally sprayed sunburst and then oversprayed black as a custom color. The routing of the body cavity for the pickups is pre-1970. Fender routing is more 'rounded' on the corners before 1970.
The tuners were chrome-plated with a large 'F' stamped on the back cover. The neck plate was a four bolt plate with a large 'F' beneath the serial number."

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:28 am
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ZZDoc wrote:
You and David Gilmour have something in common. :wink:


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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:23 am
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I like to think it is more like Jimi's Black Beauty.

It does not have sunburst under the black. There are quite a few dings along the edges, hmmm, but I guess that doesn't prove it.

I believe it is a Leo & team design. It is a CBS construction.

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:27 am
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orvilleowner is right - Leo and George Fullerton designed the 3-bolt neck attachment, micro-tilt and bullet truss rod. And they used that same design on their Music Man guitars and finally their G&L guitars - George worked for Leo's design shop, CLF Research, in the days when CLF produced the Music Man instruments; he became a principal of the company when it became G&L.

The 3-bolt is not a bad design; it was poorly executed by CBS (and the execution got worse as the 70s progressed).


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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:15 am
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orvilleowner wrote:
It does not have sunburst under the black. There are quite a few dings along the edges, hmmm, but I guess that doesn't prove it...... It is a CBS construction.

Yah...we knew CBS did crap like that. Custom color over an existing SB instead of from the bottom up. That's how they screwed me out of my '58 back in 1969. Instead of refinishing it, they sent me a new body.

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:42 am
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You wuz robbed, Doc!

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Post subject: Re: A Strat Story
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:12 am
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You wuz robbed, Doc!
Got that right!! :wink:

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