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Post subject: NGD. NOS Fender American Stratocaster.
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:22 am
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I just bought a NOS 2011 Fat Strat MIA. I thought I'd be changing the pick ups but the OEM pick-ups are awesome. Only mod I will be making are Schaller Locking tuners. The reason I had to have this guitar was because the neck felt sooooo good. I had no intention of buying a guitar. The color didn't matter, the neck sold me. Though I always wanted a Blackie. I have to stay away from my local guitar store. This is my 3rd Strat in two months. Anyone know what pickups are in this guitar, I cannot find the specs.
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Post subject: Re: NGD. NOS Fender American Stratocaster.
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:03 am
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Tex-Mex Singles (Neck, Mid), DiamondBack Humbucker (Bridge).

Fender replaced the Tex-Mex pickups with a pair of Custom Shop Fat '50s in 2012.


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Post subject: Re: NGD. NOS Fender American Stratocaster.
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:11 am
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otis66 wrote:
Though I always wanted a Blackie.


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"Blackie" does not sport a humbucker.

Humbucker sounds can be achieved using the TBX and MDX pots.


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Post subject: Re: NGD. NOS Fender American Stratocaster.
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:08 am
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chromeface wrote:
otis66 wrote:
Though I always wanted a Blackie.


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"Blackie" does not sport a humbucker.

Humbucker sounds can be achieved using the TBX and MDX pots.

Yeah, I know but my Blackie has a humbucker. Once I picked this guitar up I could not put it down. I like all the pick-ups in the guitar now, including the humbucker. I think I'm going to install Tex-Mex Pickups with TBX/MDX in one of my others Strats. Tex-Mex pickups are a great pick up for the money. Did the original "Blackie" have TBX/MDX controla?


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Post subject: Re: NGD. NOS Fender American Stratocaster.
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:24 am
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otis66 wrote:
Yeah, I know but my Blackie has a humbucker. Once I picked this guitar up I could not put it down. I like all the pick-ups in the guitar now, including the humbucker. I think I'm going to install Tex-Mex Pickups with TBX/MDX in one of my others Strats. Tex-Mex pickups are a great pick up for the money. Did the original "Blackie" have TBX/MDX controla?


While your American Standard has the Tex-Mex pickups it doesn't have the TBX/MDX controls; those are found on the Clapton signature Strat which is what chromeface was describing.

Clapton's original "Blackie" was just a partscaster made up of the "best parts" from about 3 mid-50s Strats that Clapton picked up in the early 70s. He didn't start using the TBX/MDX combo until Fender put it in the prototypes they were sending him for the Clapton Signature. The TBX/MDX circuits first appeared on the Elite Stratocaster models from the end of the CBS era - the USA ones were built from 1983-1984 (and there evidently were some MIJ ones built in 1985 - probably to use up leftover parts that FMIC didn't want to use). I suppose CBS could have sent Clapton a couple of Elites there in 1983/84; I know they sent him a Lead II around 1980which he donated to the Hard Rock Cafe and I suspect they sent him a couple of USA '57 Reissues as well.

For the record the TBX is a passive tone control that is essentially 2 tone pots with a single shaft - I believe one is a normal 250K pot and the other is a 1mg pot. There is a detent at the "5" where it shifts from the normal pot to the 1mg pot, so on a guitar with the TBX "5" is the same as putting a guitar with a normal tone control on "10". The MDX is a battery-powered mid-boost. As chromeface says if you're playing a Clapton Signature you can get pretty close to a humbucker sound by dialing in the TBX and the mid-boost.


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Post subject: Re: NGD. NOS Fender American Stratocaster.
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:32 am
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She's a beaut, otis66! :!:


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Post subject: Re: NGD. NOS Fender American Stratocaster.
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:56 pm
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She's a beaut, otis66! :!:



+1K...Enjoy your "Blackie" Otis.

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Post subject: Re: NGD. NOS Fender American Stratocaster.
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:08 pm
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otis66 wrote:
I think I'm going to install Tex-Mex Pickups with TBX/MDX in one of my others Strats.


Not recommended unless you slap an internal dummy coil under the pickguard to cancel the hum.

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Tex-Mex pickups are not humcancellers.

Using the midboost circuit with these may increase the noise.

Put in a set of Gold LSes or VNs instead.


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I suppose CBS could have sent Clapton a couple of Elites there in 1983/84


You certainly did. The Elites you're talking about were each fitted with an AVRI '57 maple neck and a Freeflyte non-tremolo hardtail bridge.

This vintage white Elite Stratocaster (pictured) sported a 5-way selector and regular Stratocaster knobs - as opposed to the regular production models which featured the infamous serrated rubber knobs and 3 push-push switches.

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In an interview with Dan Forte for Guitar Player magazine, Eric described his preferred setup for guitars "...all of them need to be about .1/8 inch in the action, and I like it to be constant all the way down... I like frets to be generally somewhere between a Strat and a Les Paul. Les Pauls are too thick and Fenders are sometimes too thin. The Fender Elite is very nice because it's a blend..."

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He also said that he "messed around" with this guitar.


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