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Post subject: Fender Strat ID
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:30 pm
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Can anyone identify this strat?? Numbers on the neck plate look fishy but neck is stamped a 1980 number.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Strat ID
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:22 pm
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Partscaster.

A 1980 neck would be marked with a serial-number decal on the headstock. And it looks like someone did some very clumsy diddling there to conceal the part's pedigree. Thus, the number stamped on the neck plate is probably bogus.

The 2TSB finish was not available on a 1980 Strat and the bridge should be the cast Mazac type with integral trem block and cast Mazac saddles. OEM plastic trim parts would likely be black, along with the pickguard and trem cover.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Strat ID
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:48 pm
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Neck stamp number is 0901-4864 in green ink. Pickups are custom shop ayz307. Body I'm not sure of. I can show a pick of the cavity for reference?


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Post subject: Re: Fender Strat ID
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:43 am
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Go to this website for neck dating as well as other information about Strats of the late '70s.

http://www.strat-central.com/70sstrats/

I'd bet that when you take appart the guitar you'll find that it's a late '70s Strat someone had converted to a 4-bolt neck and changed out many of the '70s era parts with older ones. I agree that the S/N on the neck plate is probibly not right. I wish that had posted more photos of the body curves (shown from different angles), the heal of the neck and pickup cavety. As to the extra wholes on the neck, well they are from someone adding other parts and then later removing them.

It is true that Fender never did a 2-color sunburst in the 70s, they did do a tabacco sunburst that looks similar to this. Also the body is Ash and the tuning keys, saddles and pups have been replaced.


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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:44 am
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Post subject: Re: Fender Strat ID
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:02 am
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The neck is a '76 Strat neck, but I can't tell you about the body. It looks after market to me.


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Post subject: Re: Fender Strat ID
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:28 pm
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paris wrote:
The neck is a '76 Strat neck, but I can't tell you about the body. It looks after market to me.



I am with Paris on this one...partscaster and the body is not Fender...or it has been routed for aftermarket parts that don't fit. The are behind the bridge looks like it does not cover the hole from the trem...very Un-Fender!

Not a bad looking guitar with the exception of the boogery done to the headstock as pointed out by Arjay. The body looks to have a lacquer finish to it, that has some miles on it, so the neck and body are not from the same guitar. Check to see if there are any extra holes under that pickguard as the screw placement is not correct for any of the vintages this guitar is trying to appear to be.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Strat ID
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:59 pm
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I think that the bridge was added after the fact. Looks like there may have been a locking trem on the headstock and more than likely a floater as a bridge (hence the poor fit of the vintage trem and screw holes filled on the headstock). It is a 76 fender neck the body I'm not sure of maybe a fender that was set up with a floating bridge or another company all together. Bodies are more tricky than necks to date ect. Thanks for the info. On the plus it plays very well much better than my 74 and 96 strat.


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Post subject: Re: Fender Strat ID
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:09 pm
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Somebody has definitely had a go at that decal.

The body isn't Fender, that routing looks all wrong. The router press marks on the neck pickup cavity too. Never seen them on a Fender body.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Strat ID
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:18 pm
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T2Stratman wrote:
paris wrote:
The neck is a '76 Strat neck, but I can't tell you about the body. It looks after market to me.



I am with Paris on this one...partscaster and the body is not Fender...or it has been routed for aftermarket parts that don't fit. The are behind the bridge looks like it does not cover the hole from the trem...very Un-Fender!

Not a bad looking guitar with the exception of the boogery done to the headstock as pointed out by Arjay. The body looks to have a lacquer finish to it, that has some miles on it, so the neck and body are not from the same guitar. Check to see if there are any extra holes under that pickguard as the screw placement is not correct for any of the vintages this guitar is trying to appear to be.

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If you look on upper side of the body there is a pickguard hole that is covered by the pickguard just above the middle pickup. I'm thinking this pickguard was added after the fact with a new hole drilled much higher than where the original one was screwed.


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Post subject: Re: Fender Strat ID
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:32 pm
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Hi guys: I can certainly be wrong on this, but does anyone else think the body wood looks like pine? Personally, I have nothing against pine, and it's some nice straight grain. But surely it can't be a Fender?

And I've a strong feeling that lacquer is DIY as well. Fender didn't spray that (look at the horns, the burst under the pickguard, etc), and I doubt it's a Japanese copy from that period either.

Wherever this guitar started out, it's had a load of stuff done to it on it's journey through life, over and above the sad Dremel excavation in the cavities.

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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:42 pm
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Ceri wrote:
Hi guys: I can certainly be wrong on this, but does anyone else think the body wood looks like pine? Personally, I have nothing against pine, and it's some nice straight grain. But surely it can't be a Fender?

And I've a strong feeling that lacquer is DIY as well. Fender didn't spray that (look at the horns, the burst under the pickguard, etc), and I doubt it's a Japanese copy from that period either.

Wherever this guitar started out, it's had a load of stuff done to it on it's journey through life, over and above the sad Dremel excavation in the cavities.

Cheers - C


I'm pretty sure it's ash my guitar tech said it is. We also noticed it was originally a 10 hole pickguard but was converted. Pickups were routed and as for origin I am unsure.


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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:52 pm
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Post subject: Re: Fender Strat ID
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:25 pm
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Ceri wrote:
But surely it can't be a Fender?


It's not. And you can take that opinion to the bank.

The control-cavity with its extra "shoulder" is that of a '62-format guitar but the body lacks the worm rout within the bridge pickup location. And it does indeed look like pine -- the striations in the grain are too numerous and too uniform to be ash.

This is a partscaster......case closed.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Strat ID
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:41 pm
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Hello again,

That serial number is not a Fender number. Numbers ran up to 700,000s in 1976. Then switched to 76 plus 5 digits. Then switched to the S6 plus 6 digits. Serial numbers remained starting with an S until the E series numbers started in 1979. A serial number of 82 plus 4 digits just does not fit Fender's number pattern.

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