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Post subject: 1 piece bodies?
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:09 pm
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I was reading a discussion about 1 piece bodies and the general feeling was that Fender makes 2 to 3 piece bodies..

I know that is standard practice, but does anyone have one they think is a 1 piece?

Look very closely at the front and back of my ash deluxe players body..

I'm 99.9% certain it is a 1 piece body..

If you follow the grains, they wrap around, or curve off to one side..
Pretty much eliminating any spot where there would be evidence of a joint.
I can't see even a possible seam on this one..



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Most 2 and 3 piece bodies are matched really really well, a few stick out and are obvious.
Then there are some (I believe) that are true 1 piece bodies like the one I pictured..
Doesn't make it worth anything more or less.. just interesting, and I think mine is a good looking example.


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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:55 pm
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Fender generally reserves the nicest lumber for finishes such as yours and you -- apparently -- got one of the few one-piece bodies that Ensenada is known to have produced. I've seen a few in my time, both vintage and contemporary, but not many.

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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 2:20 pm
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Looks great! How do you like the 12" radius board on that guitar?

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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 4:30 pm
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I am 99% sure my natural strat is a 1 piece.She's a player
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 5:17 pm
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Scarleg..beautiful wood ~!

Mike, I bought this body when I saw it pop up on ebay..
Been looking for a nice transparent body to use in a partsocaster..

I ended up buying another Deluxe Player today (without neck, but loaded body)

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Decided to use all the gold hardware and pickups and resell the body.. Cheapest way to get the vintage noiseless pickups and gold hardware..

Don't laugh but the neck I'm using is a Squier classic vibe 60's rosewood.. its fantastic, fits my hands perfectly and plays as well as any I've ever played..
Going to use a cream vintage pearoid guard on this one..


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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:09 pm
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turbokev wrote:
I was reading a discussion about 1 piece bodies and the general feeling was that Fender makes 2 to 3 piece bodies..

I know that is standard practice, but does anyone have one they think is a 1 piece?

Look very closely at the front and back of my ash deluxe players body..

I'm 99.9% certain it is a 1 piece body..

If you follow the grains, they wrap around, or curve off to one side..
Pretty much eliminating any spot where there would be evidence of a joint.
I can't see even a possible seam on this one..



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Most 2 and 3 piece bodies are matched really really well, a few stick out and are obvious.
Then there are some (I believe) that are true 1 piece bodies like the one I pictured..
Doesn't make it worth anything more or less.. just interesting, and I think mine is a good looking example.


The grain from the ash body is striking! :)


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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:27 pm
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There is a faint line in the grain that suggests a join.. About .5cm to the right and above the strap button hole in the first pic.. Hard to spot.

I doubt that there are 1 piece bodies coming from Mexico when they don't come out of America. It's just that they are doing a good job matching up the grain.

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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:15 am
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Blertles wrote:
There is a faint line in the grain that suggests a join.. About .5cm to the right and above the strap button hole in the first pic.. Hard to spot.



Do you mean where the arrow is pointing?

If you follow down and over the edge from there you can see the grain curving off to the left (in the oval).
If there was a joint, it would be evident on that bottom edge of the body..

You can't completeley see this due to the glare, but all those grain lines running down
the center of the guitar curve over significantly to the left..

I've looked very closely from all angles and I can find no evidence of a joint.

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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:24 am
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That's the one. I must say that it would be a first that I've seen a one piece body from Mexico- as far as I have never seen one from the USA..

Kinda makes you wonder which factory is delivering the best bodies eh..

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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 4:17 am
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With the price and availability of wood, it would be pretty rare to get one piece blocks allocated to what Fender consider their lower end product. They'd be saving it for their CS in the US and charging accordingly.


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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 5:09 am
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Whatever neck plays and feels best for you is what you should use. That's what's great about Fenders...the ability to mix and match. :wink:

Good luck, turbokev!

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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 8:07 am
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Pretty sure my Baja Tele is 1 piece or a lam'. But then again, I'm terrible at spotting joins

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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 9:38 am
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turbokev wrote:
Blertles wrote:
There is a faint line in the grain that suggests a join.. About .5cm to the right and above the strap button hole in the first pic.. Hard to spot.

Do you mean where the arrow is pointing?

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Hi guys. Oh dear, I wasn't going to get into this when I first looked at the photos yesterday, because I think it's beautiful grain and lacquer and that's all that matters. But since the magnifying glasses have now come out and detective work has begun, what the heck...

For what it's worth I don't think the dark grain mark Blertles is looking at is a join (though I get what you're saying, Blertles). You see the long grain line beside it passing and curving underneath it on the tail edge of the body, which suggests there is no join there.

However, my eye was caught by what looks like it could be a join over on the treble side - where I've put red arrows:

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I can't tell for certain because I don't have the guitar in my hands and even in these good photos it's hard to see past the surface shine on the lacquer. A close, close examination of the end grain in those spots and perhaps the back of the guitar might clarify the matter.

Also, Fender hardly ever (if ever at all) do a two-piece body with the join off-centre. If there is indeed a join where I think I'm seeing it then it will almost certainly be a three-piece body with another join on the bass side. And I can't see one in the pix.

So I can well imagine what I'm seeing is not a join and it is a one-piece body after all.

Couple of points. It can sometimes be very hard indeed to see a join on ash where straight grain is spliced next to straight grain. Also, if this is indeed a three-piece body that just gives me a lot more satisfaction - because it shows marvellous skill on the part of the guy who chose and joined the timber. The one thing I admire even more than beautiful grain is the craftsmanship of the builder, and that may be what we're seeing here.

So either way, I think it's a gorgeous guitar body. Congrats! 8)

Cheers - C

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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 10:49 am
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Nice.. I love a good detective story :)

I will post follow up pictures (without glare) of the bottom edge and top edge between the neck and the lower horn :wink:


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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:52 am
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Nice catch, Ceri!
Still, I wouldn't sweat it. That's a beautiful body whether one piece or two.

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